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frued biscuit joiner?

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maplehillfrm,pat

01-17-2008 19:17:36




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is a frued biscuit joiner any good for the intermediate wood worker, I will be making a few tables that need to be edge glued together,, I know I will find more uses,, is this a decent tool , thanks,,, compared to the HF cheapies at 50 bucks and the dewalt at 170,, this is 100, and seems like it will last a while thansk pat




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J.C.in AZ.

01-18-2008 14:48:12




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 01-17-2008 19:17:36  
Freud is a quality machine as are all their products. For an occasional user I highly recommend the Ryobi both for the cost which is affordable and the quality of the machine. I have several and also a mini size unit for picture frames etc. All my Picture Frames and Cabinet Doors are made with Mitered Corners so Biscuits work well.I have been using the Ryobi's since they came on the market and am pleased with them. I have used a Lamella at $450.00 a copy and it does not out perform the Ryobi at less than $100.00 I think. For bragging rights maybe. A Bicuit Joiner is not an every day use type machine so they last a long time and Ryobi is right up top with products for the average person to use. Tuesday this week I bought an Ryobi 12 Volt Cordless Drill for $29.95. It works good,how can you top that?

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IH2444

01-18-2008 12:58:33




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 01-17-2008 19:17:36  
Norm quit using busciut joiners. saying the cause dips in the wood where joined after some time.


I can't say for sure but I trust norm on this kind of stuff.



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KEH

01-18-2008 15:39:15




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to IH2444, 01-18-2008 12:58:33  

Reason for dips in wood is that the moisture in the glue swells the biscuit. If the area over the biscuit is sanded smooth, when the moisture dries out the wood will shrink. Solution is to assemble the biscuit joints, then let the piece dry good, then sand down everything, including swollen area, level. Should be no more change.

KEH



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Nolan (foxtrapper)

01-18-2008 11:25:00




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 01-17-2008 19:17:36  
The 102 or the 100? There's quite a difference between these two seemingly identical tools.

You might want to look at this Sears unit as well.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00917539000P?vName=Tools&cName=Portable+Power+Tools&sName=Jointers+%26+Planers



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maplehillfrm

01-18-2008 07:01:39




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 01-17-2008 19:17:36  
thanks guys, I thought they were a good brand,, I am going to pick one up,, yesterday turned 45 ,, the wife asked what I wanted for B day,, I said the biscuit jointer,,

you know once you have tools you find other uses for it,, I dont like buying the same tool twice,, I have a bunce of things I need to build, I normally do rustic furniture with saplings,, but that escalated into other work as well,,,

that is a cool looking bench you have there, thansk for the input pat

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MarkB_MI

01-18-2008 05:19:48




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 01-17-2008 19:17:36  
If all you're going to do is edge-glue planks, you don't need a high-priced plate joiner. Just a slot-cutter bit for your router. They make them specifically for that purpose, and they work very well. If you want to do biscuit joints in the middle of a board (say for shelving), then you need a plate joiner.

I think you need a 5/32" slot cutter, but I'm out of the country so I can't check mine.

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PaulW_NJ

01-18-2008 04:45:22




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to JMS/.MN, 01-17-2008 19:17:36  
Biscuit jointers are very useful not only for edge jointing boards, but also in cabinet joinery (I've often used two rows of biscuits to replace a dado joint in thick library shelving). I have a Dewalt and I'm gotten alot of use out of it. Fine Homebuilding reviewed them extensively a couple years ago: perhaps you can find the issue in your library, or you can read a summary of their artical on-line:

Link

As far as Lamello is concerned, it might be more precise and have more features, if you can justify the $450 price. If you're doing 90's and edges I'd find it difficult to believe there's a noticeable justification.

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VaTom

01-18-2008 06:45:03




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to PaulW_NJ, 01-18-2008 04:45:22  
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Paul, Lamellos are certainly not worth the money to most.

I paid $150 for a used one nearly 20 yrs ago from a large shop that had it set up stationary, heavy use. I've used it professionally since then. Often with the fence set other than 90�. Box-building being something I avoid.

Extremely durable tool.

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PaulW_NJ

01-18-2008 07:06:04




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to VaTom, 01-18-2008 06:45:03  
That's really beautiful Tom! Simple lines, elegant look. Wow, those bottom joints have got to be major stress points. I wouldn't even know where to start to set up a biscuit jointer on something like that. Thanks for sharing the image.



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VaTom

01-18-2008 09:03:39




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to PaulW_NJ, 01-18-2008 07:06:04  
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Thank you. This little table also has several biscuits. It's almost entirely off my lathe.

Bench was inspired by some slabs left over from lumber-making. Hickory, sun-bleached from well over a decade in use.

Somewhat knowledgeable woodworkers have been known to ask if it's really safe to sit on the bench. There's no visible reason the foot joints work. Two #20s each. I'm picky about whose biscuits I buy.

Haven't tested that joint to failure, but it's good for at least 450 lbs of shifting occupants. Really large folks I direct elsewhere.

Biscuits are so easy, it's almost cheating.

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Fawteen

01-18-2008 01:20:02




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to maplehillfrm,pat, 01-17-2008 19:17:36  
At that price, grab it. I have a DeWalt that I'm happy with, and Freud is supposed to be top-of-the-line.



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VaTom

01-18-2008 04:05:25




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 Re: frued biscuit joiner? in reply to Fawteen, 01-18-2008 01:20:02  
Actually Freud doesn't quite compare with Lamellos, which are a whole lot more money.

Far as I know Freuds work well, no reason to expect short life. The motor doesn't work very hard on any of them.

Pat, so long as you are only dealing with 90� edges you'll be fine. My Lamello has an infinitely adjustable fence angle, necessary for some of the things I do.

Have fun!



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