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OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter

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ldj

01-17-2008 10:24:25




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I have posted this to a Briggs group. However this group has a lot of folks that may know more about electric motors than small engine folks.

I have a 16hp horizontal shaft Briggs that used a starter gen. I don't have the starter gen. and use a rope to start with. The way I have this engine installed it is real hard to get the rope wrapped a around the pulley. I am considering using a 110v electric motor permanently mounted to start with. I know this motor will start it because I gave used it before with it temporarily connected. My question is, if I connect it permanently will it hurt that electric motor for it to be spinning all the time the engine is running after the 110v is disconnected?
L.D.

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kenfrom Ark.

01-20-2008 11:28:57




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 Re: OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter in reply to ldj, 01-17-2008 10:24:25  
There is a 110 volt starter made for snow mobiles.
Have one in the shop left over from former days still new and in the box.
remove the old and install new part.
Now you mentioned B/S started/gen. These can be purchased at a place that repairs golf carts.
just ideas. ken



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JT

01-19-2008 07:07:26




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 Re: OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter in reply to ldj, 01-17-2008 10:24:25  
I know nothing about if the 110v would work, might, but as Buickanddeeere said, why not just get a 12v str/gen and put it back correctly? You said that you have used the 110v motor before, did you start it all from a dead stop or did you start the electric motor and then tighten the belt. I am not sure that a 110v electric motor would have enough starting torque to start turning the 16hp engine from a dead stop.
Jim

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ldj

01-19-2008 07:30:02




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 Re: OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter in reply to JT, 01-19-2008 07:07:26  

JT,
I started the electric motor first. I have used this same motor to start a Ingersol Rand spot air compressor and several hit&miss engines I have.
L.D.



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buickanddeere

01-17-2008 17:09:19




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 Re: OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter in reply to ldj, 01-17-2008 10:24:25  
If you are going to do the job half way, why not get a 25amp Hitachi 12V starter/generator from e-bay. And not have some cobbled up farmer fix.



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Ryan - WI

01-17-2008 15:29:51




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 Re: OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter in reply to wyod, 01-17-2008 10:24:25  

ldj said: (quoted from post at 13:24:25 01/17/08)
I have posted this to a Briggs group. However this group has a lot of folks that may know more about electric motors than small engine folks.

I have a 16hp horizontal shaft Briggs that used a starter gen. I don't have the starter gen. and use a rope to start with. The way I have this engine installed it is real hard to get the rope wrapped a around the pulley. I am considering using a 110v electric motor permanently mounted to start with. I know this motor will start it because I gave used it before with it temporarily connected. My question is, if I connect it permanently will it hurt that electric motor for it to be spinning all the time the engine is running after the 110v is disconnected?

L.D.


Is there any way you can use an oversize belt with a tensioner pulley operated by a lever?
Turn on the motor

Tension the belt

When the engine runs, release tension

Turn off electric motor

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ldj

01-17-2008 16:00:31




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 Re: OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter in reply to Ryan - WI, 01-17-2008 15:29:51  
Ryan, I have thought about doing that.

Jon, Would their be a way to take the centrifugal switch out and connect the circuit to a push button switch outside that could be activated when starting the engine?
L.D.



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Jon Hagen

01-17-2008 16:36:08




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 Re: OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter in reply to ldj, 01-17-2008 16:00:31  
Yes, you should be able to remove the mechanical start switch and connect it's wires to a momentary contact button switch rated for the motors voltage and amps.

Another angle to your project is that by adding a small "exciter" dry cell battery and a capacitor, your starter motor would work as a small standby generator plant :-)



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fzbcheve

01-17-2008 10:44:27




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 Re: OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter in reply to ldj, 01-17-2008 10:24:25  
Have an OEM starter-generator with regulator.

Brand new take off, never been used.

Can you use it?



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Jon Hagen

01-17-2008 11:00:25




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 Re: OT--- 110v motor for Briggs starter in reply to fzbcheve, 01-17-2008 10:44:27  
If the electric motor has a mechanical starting switch, you would need to have the motor turning faster than the "kick out " rpm of the electric motors starting switch or the switch will see rapid wear (no running the gas engine at idle :-).
If the electric motor has an electronic starting switch,then no problem.



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