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can snow plowing trigger airbags?

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circus

01-10-2008 06:24:27




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Brother needs a plow bad but fears it would trigger the air bags and total his 96 Mitsubishi Montero. Is he right?




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circus

01-10-2008 13:11:44




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 I'll take a peek if a frame in reply to circus, 01-10-2008 06:24:27  
The beast (Montero) weighs 4400 lbs, gets 13 mpg, and has 300,000 miles on it. I'll check for a frame. We're worried about killing a corpse anyway.



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glennster

01-10-2008 08:15:32




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 Re: can snow plowing trigger airbags? in reply to circus, 01-10-2008 06:24:27  
generally air bags will need a 3 g decelleration in order to deploy. it will need to pull 3 times the force of gravity to deploy both perimeter sensor and sensor in the srs module. quite possible if you hit something like a manhole cover and the truck stops instantly at a pretty decent speed. as far as hanging a plow on the montero, i wouldnt do it. most veh mfr recommend plow on hd trucks only for current producton years. 3/4 ton and up. they do make the lexan plastic plows for the mini trucks.

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1936

01-10-2008 07:53:38




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 Re: can snow plowing trigger airbags? in reply to circus, 01-10-2008 06:24:27  
One thing to NEVER and that is long time is buy a truck that had a snow plow on it. Your unibody thought is off the charts. Air bags will not be your problem!



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Balatonm

01-10-2008 07:52:14




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 Re: can snow plowing trigger airbags? in reply to circus, 01-10-2008 06:24:27  
I agree on that. If your brother wants to mount a plow on his vheicle, i'd get an older vhicle or somthing with a 4x4 pakage at least. Theres a guy arund here that has a plowblade mounted on a 4x4 jeep and dosnt have a problum with it, most of them I see around here any way are on trucks 2004 or older. another thing to be awher of is that his incerince will go through the roof.



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Goose

01-10-2008 07:17:16




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 Re: can snow plowing trigger airbags? in reply to circus, 01-10-2008 06:24:27  
I go with Ken. If your brother wants to plow, he needs to get something that's built for it. Putting a plow on a Montero would be a classic example of "accelerated depreciaton". It would be a quick way of wrecking a Montero.

That being said, I think it would be possible to deploy airbags while plowing. The generally accepted figure is that it takes a 14 mph impact to deploy airbags. And even though the blade on a plow is spring loaded to collapse forward if you hit something solid, there are still times when you hit something frozen just right to stop the truck in its tracks.

I have a plow on an old '78 Chevy 4x4 pickup out on the farm. It amazes me the abuse that old Chevy has survived. However, a Montero is nowhere near as indestructable as those old Chevys. If your brother was plowing and hit something hard enough to deploy the airbags, he's probably also totalled the Montero.

And, guess what? Warranties and insurance normally don't cover damage to a vehicle caused by a snow plow on the vehicle. Unless a vehicle is equipped with a factory installed plow package, usually the mere presence of a plow on a vehicle is enough to void the warranty for at least any power-train problems.

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GeneMO

01-10-2008 16:23:42




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 Re: can snow plowing trigger airbags? in reply to Goose, 01-10-2008 07:17:16  
The insurance company is not so concerned with damage to the vehicle as they are the commercial liability exposure. All things change once you start using a vehicle for hire. As long as you do it for yourself or to help a neighbor, and no money changes hands it is OK. Its once you turn it into a business that insurance becomes an issue.

If you hang one onto a vehicle that is not intended to operate with a blade, you may have manufactures warranty problems, but generally not your insurance.

We had a saying in out company that we do insure against stupidity. Meaning folks do some stupid things, and as long as there is not fraud or intentional damange, it is covered.

Just my two cents worth. Right glennster?


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jerry s

01-10-2008 07:05:20




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 Re: can snow plowing trigger airbags? in reply to circus, 01-10-2008 06:24:27  
i do auto body repair a air bag is triggered at 35 m.p.h. impact and unibodies are too weak to use in my opinion.If you need to know any more lat me know
jerry



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RobMD

01-10-2008 07:00:40




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 Re: can snow plowing trigger airbags? in reply to circus, 01-10-2008 06:24:27  
I'd never put a plow on a unibody. There's just no structural support. You need at least a Half-ton 4x4 to plow effectively.

As for tripping airbags? Yeah, only if you plow so fast that you're nuts. ;)



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Ken Crisman

01-10-2008 06:46:46




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 Re: can snow plowing trigger airbags? in reply to circus, 01-10-2008 06:24:27  
Your brother needs to get a truck built for plowing if he needs one that bad . I've plowed for 25 yrs now & am the only driver of my truck . I try taking care of my truck mechanically & use care while plowing . But let me tell you , no matter how careful one is , plowing is extremely hard on vehicles & things do break due to stress & cold . And around here there are cut throats & none payers . So at times I wanna quit but do have some customers who stay with me so I keep plowing . My experience . God bless, Ken

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