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ray_woods

01-09-2008 12:14:56




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I'm looking at a 25kw generator powered by a Onan 4 cylinder diesel.
I'd like to get 85 amps out of it. Before I spend the driving time is it ok to approximate current using Power = Voltage * current or is there a factor to stay below (Peak versus Continuous).
Its being sold as and the price reflects that.




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T_Bone

01-10-2008 17:31:20




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 Re: 25kw generator in reply to ray_woods, 01-09-2008 12:14:56  
Hi Ray,

Something else to think about as you can always install demand circuits using contactors, about $35eh, or line voltage timers, about $65eh, to cycle peak demands thus use a smaller genset too control the same 85amp load requirement.

Digital lawn sprinkler timers, about $25eh, make a excellant pilot low voltage, low cost, timer used with a contactor for high current switching. This configuration would be a low voltage pilot circuit.

T_Bone

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buickanddeere

01-10-2008 15:59:28




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 Re: 25kw generator in reply to ray_woods, 01-09-2008 12:14:56  
There should be a data plate on both the engine and the alternator's body. 25KW 3 phase 120/208V wired as a "Y" connection.25000/208 X 1.73 = 69.5 amps per phase. At best the 3 phase alternator can produce 25,000 x 0.577 =14.4KW wired single phase 208V.



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Areo

01-09-2008 13:17:59




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 Re: 25kw generator in reply to ray_woods, 01-09-2008 12:14:56  
Single phase or 3 phase? Single yes on 85 amps., 3 phase no ( assuming 230 volts).

Aero



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ray_woods

01-09-2008 15:52:56




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 Re: 25kw generator in reply to Areo, 01-09-2008 13:17:59  
The generator is a 3phase generator currently wired to generate 208VAC single phase.

The person selling it has no other information. What I'd have to do is step it up to 220 or 240vac depending on what piece of equipment I run with it. Its temporary solution to a long running problem.



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David - OR

01-10-2008 07:42:25




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 Re: 25kw generator in reply to ray_woods, 01-09-2008 15:52:56  
"Wired to generate 208 VAC single phase".

This probably means it's still acting as a 3-phase generator but only one phase is being used.

With the generator running flat out in a 3-phase environment, it would produce a line current of 69 amps per phase.

(3 phase power = line current * line voltage * 1.73)

So 25kw / (208 volts * 1.73) = 69 amps

So the windings in the generator would be sized for 69 amps -- in the worst case this limits you to 14KW or so.

Now, since the engine is designed for 25KW the generator might be able to do more than just 14KW into one phase.

If you can split some of your 240 volts loads to run off a different phase pair, you can probably use more of the capacity of this generator.

As the other posters mentioned, most motors and heaters are rated to operate at 208 volts as well as 230/240 volts.

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Wayne_H

01-09-2008 16:19:31




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 Re: 25kw generator in reply to ray_woods, 01-09-2008 15:52:56  
I have a 12.5 KW 3 phase onan genset. I run it at 8kw using two phases. I can draw about 35 amps per leg. It powers up most everything I have with the exception of the heat pumps.

I know this is not ideal to have one leg/phase unloaded, but it's run like this for the past 14 years without a problem.

With a 25kw unit you should be fine doing the same. I think all 220 volt equipment is also rated at 208 volts, at least our well pump is. And the single phase is 117 or so anyway.

Wayne

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