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jack12345

01-08-2008 21:16:33




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I've been looking at some of these small inverter type generators 1000-2000 watt. All of them as far as I know are made overseas. Japan ( Honda & Yamaha) costing $650-$1000. and then the China made ones costing $200-600. Are the ones made in Japan worth the extra $? Anyone have ANY info on these generators? Thanks.




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JT

01-09-2008 06:12:38




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 Re: Inverter generator in reply to jack12345, 01-08-2008 21:16:33  
I agree with what was said about Coleman, I am one of their service centers and if it were not for the service contract with Lowes that I have, I would not be a service center. They not only discontinue parts quick, their dealer service is terrible, and either they have so high of a failure rate they cannot keep parts in stock or they just do not stock many parts, whatever the case, they have poor parts delivery. Enough of that rant, I also work on a lot of the Chinese generators, and yes people are getting adequate service for the money they pay. They are not made to high specs or tolerances, after sale service on 90% of them are terrible. As for service, McCulloch, Champion and Wen and probably 3 of the best so far, I have also dealt with All-Power, AWS, GXI, and they have NO technical support what so ever, they have no idea how to trouble shoot their own generators. I have a GXI that I have been trying to get a starter to repair a generator for over 3 months, cannot get. As for overall quality, they are cheap set, cheap made, poor castings, poor tolerances, gaskets do not hold up long term, their output on most are all over the place, but with ANSI specs for a portable generator, the do not sell little parts, if you need a bowl gasket on carb, you buy a carb, not gaskets. I could go on and on about the poor quality of most, but you get the idea. You get what you pay for, you buy cheap, you get cheap!

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coloken

01-09-2008 06:12:36




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 Re: Inverter generator in reply to jack12345, 01-08-2008 21:16:33  
I hate to say this fellows, but my take on this is: Don't buy a US made one because you can't get parts. Buy a China one--you might be able to get parts or at least it is cheap enough that you can throw it away and buy again. So sad, but true.



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jdemaris

01-09-2008 05:44:20




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 Re: Inverter generator in reply to jack12345, 01-08-2008 21:16:33  
Even the high-end ones are mostly made in China - including Honda and Yamaha - but made to their particular specs.

I bought a new one from Coleman (1000 watt) before Honda or Yamaha had any for sale. Most of it was US made. A year later, I couldn't get any parts for it. It hadn't even seen an hour's use. It was stuck on engine-idle and would not power up. Coleman told me it probably needed a new circuit board - and they did not have any available anymore. Also, they refused to let me have a schematic so I could try fixing it myself.

I sold it on Ebay, bought a Chinese knock-off for 1/3 the price, and it's been great.

The Chinese are making the high-end stuff for brand-name companies - and then making their own clones. Some are crap, and some are fine.

The big advantage with the inverter-style is that it makes DC current at the gen-head, not AC, and therefore does not rely on engine RPM for proper Hertz-cycles.
The better ones with full-wave inverters make much better AC power than most conventional AC gensets. Makes a big difference when powering battery chargers. The disadvantage is that they are more complicated and expensive.

I originally bought the Coleman - not because it was an inverter-series - but because of the light weight. It weighed 22 lbs. All I wanted it for was to carry in my diesel truck and use it to power the engine-block heater when parked in cold temps with no AC power around.

I will never buy anything from Coleman again - their product support has gone way down-hill. In regard to cheap Chinese stuff? The one I bought was dirt-cheap and already lasted much longer than the Coleman. If it died tomorror, I'd still be way ahead.

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Circus

01-09-2008 05:08:44




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 Why Inverter generator in reply to jack12345, 01-08-2008 21:16:33  
What is the advantages of a inverter generator? Does the engine speed vary with demand?



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Bob

01-09-2008 05:19:48




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 Re: Why Inverter generator in reply to Circus, 01-09-2008 05:08:44  
Yes, the engine speed varies with demand. Under light load, they about idle, and are QUIET.



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RayP(MI)

01-09-2008 02:08:57




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 Re: Inverter generator in reply to jack12345, 01-08-2008 21:16:33  
Those Chinese knock-offs are just that. Junk! You get what you pay for. Haven"t heard of anyone who has had a good long term relationship with that Chinese stuff.



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