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Another 2000 7.3 Powerstroke Question

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Gus

01-05-2008 17:34:02




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Seems as though my glow plugs aren"t working. Plug it in, starts fine. If not, no fun. Is there an easy way to check this out? So much junk under the hood, can"t even find them. Heard once about some relay or fuse that I should look at first. Don"t find any fuse in the manual or else it"s called something other than glow plugs. Thanks for any help. Gus




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jdemaris

01-06-2008 06:52:25




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 Re: Another 2000 7.3 Powerstroke Question in reply to Gus, 01-05-2008 17:34:02  
Ford has their share of relay burnouts due to the constand cycling of the plugs after every start.

You can buy a much heavier relay for half the cost of a OEM Ford from Stancor.

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fred kobs

01-06-2008 06:28:14




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 Re: Another 2000 7.3 Powerstroke Question in reply to Gus, 01-05-2008 17:34:02  
OK, this is off topic but wanted to add to everybodies good replys. If you need to jump start or worse yet throw the 200amp charger to it, glowplugs hate 2 many amps. Best is to charge the batt. then start 'er up. I smoked only one set of plugs and was a brutal learning experience that i wanted to share. HTH somebody. Fred



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JT

01-05-2008 18:58:02




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 Re: Another 2000 7.3 Powerstroke Question in reply to Gus, 01-05-2008 17:34:02  
Gus,
Go to tractor talk, do a topic search on this issue, there is a lot of good info there. If I were you, I would go to Navistar and get your GPR there. I have had people tell me they have not had the best of luck with some aftermarket GPRs, especially if you go to one of the box store auto parts stores, O'reailly, auto zone, Advance Auto, CSK, etc. Jim



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Bob M

01-05-2008 18:19:20




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 Re: Another 2000 7.3 Powerstroke Question in reply to Gus, 01-05-2008 17:34:02  
Most likely the glow plug relay (GPR) has failed.

The GPR looks sorta like a Ford starter relay. It's perched on top of the engine, near the oil filler cap but closer to the engine centerline.

The GPR has 4 terminals - 2 large and 2 small. One large terminal (protected by a rubber boot) is connected to the batteries and should show 12 volts to ground all the time.

The other large terminal is just a plain stud and nut. This terminal will show 12 volts whenever the "wait to start light" is lit.

Use a voltmeter or a 12 volt test light between this large terminal and ground to determine whether the GPR is working.

If the GPR is not working it's a simple matter to replace it. Note: A $25 generic relay from a parts store works just as well as the $80 GPR from the Ford dealer.

Good luck!

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KEB1

01-05-2008 17:54:37




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 Re: Another 2000 7.3 Powerstroke Question in reply to Gus, 01-05-2008 17:34:02  
The glow plug relay on these is a common failure point. If you look on top of the engine there are two large relays located to the passenger side of and just back of the cover over the fuel filter. The one furthest back (also shorter) is the glow plug relay.

There are two large and two small terminals. There should be battery voltage on the large terminal towards the passenger side all the time. If there isn't, there's a fuseable link under the passenger size battery that's probably open. If there's voltage there, put the voltmeter between the two large terminals and have someone turn on the key (but don't start the engine).

With the key off, there should be battery voltage or something pretty close to it between the two large terminals. With the key on, the voltage between the terminals shouldn't exceed a few tenths of a volt. If the voltage drop across the relay is more than a few tenths of a volt, the relay is bad.

They're relatively expensive from a dealer, as in $75 - $100, but a lot of auto parts places have generic ones that can be made to work. I just replaced mine, ended up costing $19 for a generic one.

If replacing the relay doesn't solve the problem, you either have a wiring problem or bad glow plugs. In order to replace the glow plugs you have to remove the valve covers. The under valve cover harnesses are known to have problems also. They're a lot cheaper from an International truck dealer than from Ford.

I still need to replace a couple glow plugs in mine, but just haven't had time yet. I just keep it plugged in when its cold if I think I'm going to need it.

Keith

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