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Slag in Calif.

07-28-2001 23:53:02




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has anyone had any luck running nr211 with a cc machine uphill or even vert down without welding over the splater? problem is 5/64" wire , 3/4" ar400 in rock truck beds?




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FRED

07-30-2001 17:38:12




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 Re: innershield in reply to Slag in Calif., 07-28-2001 23:53:02  
I weld with intershield a lot with a CC machine, check your polarity most wires run electrode -. FRED



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Slag in Calif.

08-01-2001 22:14:56




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 Re: Re: innershield in reply to FRED, 07-30-2001 17:38:12  
Fred, did you say electrode - ? I'll have to try switching polerity and see if that helps. going to try cv from a trailblazer tomorrow at the dealer.Can't believe everything a salesman say's so I'll burn some nr212 & 211 on cv. the new machine I have my eye on is a miller 502.Have you heard any thing good or bad about it.$10,500 is too much to spend if I find that cv isn't all it's cracked up to be. gota get faster with the wire what with my new customer wants all jobs on a hard bid! thank for the input. :>

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FRED

08-02-2001 17:24:42




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 Re: Re: Re: innershield in reply to Slag in Calif., 08-01-2001 22:14:56  
Check your specs. for the wire you are useing. Most of the old lincoln wires iI use are elctrode negative. I an an old pipe liner if it isnt Lincoln gray----you know the story. I am know useing a SAE 400 Diesel.I ran a LN22 on a SA 250 for 10 years ran CODE welds no problem. I am not farmilliar with 212, but I know I wont use NR211. I have done a lot of heavy equipment repair with NR202. FRED



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Branden

08-02-2001 20:23:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: innershield in reply to FRED, 08-02-2001 17:24:42  
Hey Fred, I'm just curious as to what my fellow field welders use out there, but what do you use most, in the way of self-shielding wires for doing repairs on farm machinery and big equipment and such? I've primarily just used 7018 rod, but just recently purchased the LN-25 to run off of my Trailblazer. So far all I have used is the nr211, but that has mostly been for fence lines and miscellaneous non-critical welds and trailer repairs. Sounds like we are in the same line of work, but 90% of my work is subcontract welding in my shop for an engineering firm out of California and Washington. I got set up with field service, because I got tired of turning down, or referring field service work. Just wondered what you use and or do. Thanks for any feed-back you may give me.

Branden

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FRED

08-04-2001 17:47:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: innershield in reply to Branden, 08-02-2001 20:23:41  
Branden For fast and dirty tack up and thin work I use 7010G. Other small work I use 7018. On big heavywork, cutting edges, buckets, and things. LN25 with 5/64 NR202 for all position. Or NS3M or NR311 for flat work. FRED



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Branden

08-06-2001 16:37:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: innershield in reply to FRED, 08-04-2001 17:47:15  
Thanks for the information Fred!!

Branden



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Branden

07-30-2001 17:07:10




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 Re: innershield in reply to Slag in Calif., 07-28-2001 23:53:02  
Your major problem, is that you are using cc instead of cv. If you use cv, you will cure your nasty spatter problem. I use 211 frequently in the field. I did a 1" plate test, multipass, both overhead and vertical, passed both tests. I'm still wondering why the manufacturer and others keep saying single pass welds only. I never heard or saw that until recently, say the last 6 months or so. It might have something to do with the charpy properties though.

Hopefully Steve from US alloy will respond to your question.

Branden

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FRED

07-29-2001 08:43:57




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 Re: innershield in reply to Slag in Calif., 07-28-2001 23:53:02  
If you check the specs on 211 you will find it is not for mulitpass welds and not for any thing over 1/2". Try NR202 a better choice for vert. up only very good over head. FRED



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jim

08-02-2001 23:08:44




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 Re: Re: innershield in reply to FRED, 07-29-2001 08:43:57  
nr 211-- run about 190 amps, cc. check if wire feed has selector switch for cc. runs well down hill. straight (-) polarity. feed at around 30-35, (scale of 100). first pass may be porress second will burn in good. have used this on ar 400 often.



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jim

08-05-2001 23:11:59




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 Re: Re: Re: innershield in reply to jim, 08-02-2001 23:08:44  
excuse me , 190 amps for .068, 250 for 5/64. trailblazer will have hard time running 5//64..068 runs a little easier.



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