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How to keep using your old TV after digital starts...

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Dick2

01-03-2008 08:16:27




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If you want to continue to use your old analog TV with an antenna after they start broadcasting in digital, here are some things that you need to do. I've gleaned this information from different sources.

You can apply today through March 31, 2009, to the government for a maximum of TWO coupons per household worth $40 each to purchase a set-top converter box to translate digital over-the-air broadcasts to analog for viewing on your old TV.

Retailers are supposed to start selling these converter boxes in March, 2008, for $50 to $75 each. You'll have to pay the difference between the coupon and the retail price. According to what I've read, no other changes are necessary, as your antenna doesn't know the difference between an analog and a digital broadcast signal. There is no such thing as an "HD" antenna!

Here's the number and web site to contact for your FREE coupon(s): 888-388-2009 (toll free call). OR: www.mydtv2009.gov

The coupons are ONLY GOOD FOR 90 DAYS after you receive them, so you need to time it to your needs. We requested our coupons this morning by phone; the number works.

Or you could buy a new digital TV. An article out yesterday says to not be in a rush to buy that digital TV, if you don't already have one. Prices are going to come down - and there are a lot of myths about digital TV's. HD is not always what they say it is. Many shows will say that they are in HD (high definition), but actually only certain parts of the show will be in HD.

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Mattlt

01-04-2008 07:52:00




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
Does anyone know...

If a set-top box is required, or will there be some type of box that can be placed inline with the antenna cable coming into the house? Seems a shame to buy one for each TV if you can just put something in before the splitter.



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dave guest

01-03-2008 18:40:25




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
If you have cable, you don't worry. They will take care of it without additional charge per consumer reports magazine.



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hayray

01-03-2008 16:43:24




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
well I'll just watch movies and my favorite tv shows on DVD. Hate when the goverment forces us to do anything.



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Bus Driver

01-03-2008 16:28:11




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
Waiting until the converters are on the store shelves sounds like a good idea- maybe. Congress allocated only limited funds to this program and it is not guaranteed that every requested voucher will be issued. When the limit is reached, no more vouchers. The information that I have is that voucher issue will be delayed until the units are actually available and the 90 day clock starts then.



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Dick2

01-04-2008 05:18:32




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Bus Driver, 01-03-2008 16:28:11  
The person on the phone said that our coupons will be mailed at the end of February and that the retailers are scheduled to begin selling the converter units and accepting the coupons March 1, 2008.



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circus

01-03-2008 16:24:19




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 It's great in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
I bought a DVR that has a DTV tuner. Using my old TV, the snowy channels are now clear and there's many more channels. My advice is why wait, get the converter now. It's great.



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Maark

01-03-2008 14:41:52




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
If you have your tv hooked to a dish, you won't need that special box. Satelite tv is already digital.



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mph

01-03-2008 10:37:51




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
OR you could do what I have done for the last 7 years the only thing I watch are movies I buy vhs, dvd's. After their prices of cable and sat. Got over 30 dollars a mo. I said no more of that. You would be surprised how much time a person has to do other things than watch all their d-- commercials. The way I see it they should pay us to watch bs adds.



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Kansas Cockshutt

01-03-2008 22:32:54




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to mph, 01-03-2008 10:37:51  
There may be something to that. Between farm radio, local, internet and the paper I don't really have the time to watch all the celebrity and reality tv "prime time". Proud to say never watched any of that drivel.

Might be different if it was "Andy Griffith" type shows but all the murder shows and alternate lifestyle crud they can keep.

my 2 cents



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Chuck UR

01-04-2008 05:00:40




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Kansas Cockshutt, 01-03-2008 22:32:54  
I know what you mean about 'modern TV'.
We have Diectv, western channel, Gene Autry,
Bat Masterson, The Big Valley & The Rifleman every afternoon !
We watch the Science Channel, History Channel, Discovery etc in the evening.



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Ozlander

01-03-2008 10:07:53




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
I don't think I would request a 90 day coupon until the DTV Converter boxes are on the shelf. Supposed to be don't get it.



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C. Smith

01-03-2008 09:50:01




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
When I called the telephone number the machine gave me the run-around. It requests that you give it your address, but specifies that you should not spell the address. I attempted to slowly and articulately say my street name, but when the computer repeated the address after I had said it, it was incorrect. Next they claimed that they would connect me with a service representative, but after about 30 seconds of waiting the machine returned, said that I should try at another time and then promptly hung-up. Rather suspicious I think. . .however, this was the first week of January and they might still be on holiday. I'll try again next week.

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paul

01-03-2008 08:55:50




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 08:16:27  
Questions:

What about the VCR? Will we be able to use our old VCRs, or will they need their own converter box, or are they also junk now? I'm thinking they need their own converter box, and even then will be difficult to set to record a show?

Some of us are out in the boonies and watch clear to snowy analog TV, depending on the weather. My understanding is digital requires a clearer signal to work, so we will have less, or no, digital channels available from an antenna? I think Satelite TV is going to be very happy, and _very_ busy in Feb-May until they get all the intallations done.....

Cheaper TVs - You realize a lot of folks aren't very aware of the world around them, and come next December-March there is going to be a lot of people with stunned looks going to the Walmart & wanting a TV or converter box right now. I don't think they will have to do any sales at all & will sell out to the bare walls.....

--->Paul

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VaTom

01-03-2008 15:31:15




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to paul, 01-03-2008 08:55:50  
We already dealt with the issue in our boonies. Solution for us was to buy a dvd recorder with a digital tuner built in.

Our Philips I wouldn't recommend (loses its memory too frequently), but a lot of the problem lies with the digital signal. If it's not strong enough, you don't get poor picture as with analog, you often get nothing. Recordings don't happen then. Weather makes a large difference.

Recording analog with the digital Philips works better for a weak signal, for as long as analog exists.

The upside was we found a dozen digital stations that we never knew existed. For instance, we now receive 9 different PBS broadcasts, weather permitting.

One of these days I'm going to mess with the antenna and see if we can do better. Maybe hook up the rotator again.

Had premium satellite TV for a year when I traded a rock to a guy in the business. He left that business and we chose not to pay. Happy to have had the experience, but not worth the money to us.

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Slowpoke

01-05-2008 23:42:39




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to VaTom, 01-03-2008 15:31:15  
My rotor hasn't worked in 10 years, but it and the antenna have been up there for probably 30 or more years. When new it got 16 channels, now I'm down to about 8. In the early 70's I had cable for a few years, but when they raised the price from $6.99 to $7.99 a month I told them to turn it off. Six months later it was still on, but I never got a bill. I called again; a couple of months later I turned on the TV one day and got only snow. I checked the box on the telephone pole and saw that the cables had been ripped out of the box. Then in the 00's I had satellite for 3-4 years. I was at Walmart today looking at the new TV sets. They don't look any better than my 8 year old Sanyo. The lowest priced one was $189.

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JoeK(WI)

01-03-2008 11:42:06




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to paul, 01-03-2008 08:55:50  
VCRS and DVD recorders are in effect televisions with a record/playback unit,instead of a screen,SO they will be in the same boat as Analog TVs.Dunno if the newer ones are digital/HD readly or adaptable likew some newer TVsare but chances are you'll need a decoder for them also if you record off air...on playback signal you will need it to be whatever TV needs.A lot more info will be forthcoming I'm sure, Mandatory Switchover is not till Feb 2009,so I'm biding my time for right now.

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Dick2

01-03-2008 09:04:28




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to paul, 01-03-2008 08:55:50  
I haven't read anything so far about recorders, etc., but I'm sure the info will get out.

I'm thinking that I want to use our antenna system as long as possible. TV is disgusting enough to watch; paying $50 - $100 a month makes it even more disgusting!



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BTD

01-03-2008 11:54:33




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 09:04:28  
I live out in the boons and Digital TV is actually easier to receive. Some local stations are always very snowy, but the digital signal is perfect. I can actually get the digital versions of two stations that are unwatchable in analog.

I tried the website, it said I already got my coupons. I appealed asking when they were 'mailed' if I got them already.



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ldj

01-03-2008 11:54:04




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to Dick2, 01-03-2008 09:04:28  
If I get new HD TV, will my old vcr and dvd recordings work on the new tv?



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Charles (in GA)

01-03-2008 15:24:19




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 Re: How to keep using your old TV after digital starts... in reply to ldj, 01-03-2008 11:54:04  
Only if your new HD TV has analog inputs, which I think alot do have.

Charles



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