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POR-15 or similar

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Billy NY

12-31-2007 10:01:37




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I was wondering if anyone has used this product, including the preparation products used prior to the finish coat.

I have the box off this ford ranger I've got in the garage, and besides the other work I'm doing to it, I'd like to deal with the flaking rust on the frame, it has it's first layer of scale, but if left as is, at some point it would probably be well beyond saving. Either from the salt and or moisture, it's sat awhile, on gravel, the top side of the frame seems to be the worst, but plenty of metal left to work with now just being the first layer of rust scale, seems doing some cleaning and removing of the scale, cleaning, wire brushing, (a needle scaler might be the next tool on my list), a product like POR-15 should be a good selection to coat this frame and protect it from further rust, the truck only has 70,000 miles, has the 2.3L 4 cyl., and 5 spd, if left as is, the rust would probably do the truck in before the drive train was wore out. Just wondering what may be a good product to apply after doing the prep work, POR-15, or equivalent, heard napa has a similar product, a friend used it, yet he's seeing some rust re-appear, as always appreciate your suggestions and advice, thanks !

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JT

12-31-2007 10:49:07




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 Re: POR-15 or similar in reply to Billy NY, 12-31-2007 10:01:37  
Used is on a lot of gas engines that I have. I use this instead of sandblasting. The one thing is, that is a very hard finish when you are done and paint does not like to stick to it, well. After using the POR-15, either get some of their self etching primer or go to a body shop supply place and get a can of self etching primer to shoot over it. then paint it. I use a cheap bristle brush, and it works out good. Use some kind of rubber gloves, get it on you, it takes a long time to wear off. Enamal Reducer will cut it and clean as long as it has not dried.
Jim

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TimV

12-31-2007 10:15:43




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 Re: POR-15 or similar in reply to Billy NY, 12-31-2007 10:01:37  
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Billy: I"ve used POR-15 on truck frames with good results. I"ve been VERY impressed with it wherever I"ve used it, provided you follow the directions. The stuff is unbelievably tough--I"ve applied it and then hammered out dents (not by choice, the dents magically appeared after application....) without cracking the finish. Below is my 1956 Chevy truck with POR-15 on the frame. POR-15 flows out very well when applied with a foam brush (or actually several dozen foam brushes!), though if you"re worried about looks you"ll want to topcoat it--POR-15 will lose its gloss and turn grey if exposed to long-term direct sunlight.

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Billy NY

12-31-2007 10:40:45




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 Re: POR-15 or similar in reply to TimV, 12-31-2007 10:15:43  
Yes, same kind of application, funny this truck is a '94 and's not been in too much road salt, winter driving etc, yet it's rusty, it's sat on/ off, long story there, but sure looks like the frame is from the 50's.

How much did you use to coat the frame ?

Foam brush - best applicator, how did it apply with a bristle brush ? I can imagine that this is not something you want to get on your skin.

I read up on it and saw the information about the topcoating/sunlight, and the metal preparation work. This does not have to be aethestically perferct, there is lots of pitting, whereas one could really fuss, use filler and attempt to make the steel look smooth again, I just want to try and protect the frame so that I can get the use out of the truck, 1st service truck for my business, would be nice not worry about the spring shackles rotting off as is common to these if not taken care of, fortunately it's not near that stage, but would not take long if I don't do something now, thanks for the photo !

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TimV

12-31-2007 11:26:26




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 Re: POR-15 or similar in reply to Billy NY, 12-31-2007 10:40:45  
Billy: I used just under a quart for two coats on the frame--the stuff goes a long way, even slopping it on. I don"t know how it would apply with a bristle brush as I"ve never used one. Anything you use on POR is pretty much toasted, so I didn"t want to bother even trying to clean up bristle brushes--I bought a boxful of foam brushes from Harbor Freight for around $10 and used them, tossing them as they fell apart and grabbing a fresh one. JT is right about it getting on your skin--if it dries, you"re going to be wearing it for a couple of weeks! I use disposable dollar-store rubber gloves and a long-sleeved shirt when painting. Follow the directions closely--for instance, DO NOT paint directly from the can--dip what you need (I use disposable dixie cups for dippers) into a seperate container (I use disposable plastic bowls--do you sense a pattern developing here?!) and then paint from that. Protect the rim with plastic wrap when putting the lid back on--if POR-15 dries between the rim and the lid, you WILL NOT get the cover back off. Make sure to close the can tightly--if air is allowed to circulate in the can, a skin will form over the top of the remaining POR and it"s a royal bear to get through it (think: hammer and spike, and I"m not exaggerating) and into the remaining POR-15.

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ldj

12-31-2007 12:18:50




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 Re: POR-15 or similar in reply to TimV, 12-31-2007 11:26:26  
I got p**** off a POR-15 a few years ago. Don't know if they control their dealers now as they did then. Here's what happened. I was using a dealer that was selling cheaper than the rest. Por-15 told him they would remove him as dealer if he didn't charge XX$. So he started charging what all other dealers did but he then gave free shipping. Por-15 removed him as a dealer. I haven't used POR-15 since and will not in the future.

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