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What kind of machine is this?

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Dan J

12-29-2007 09:30:01




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I am trying to buy the tools in an estate. One of them is what looks like a milling machine. It has a ram that goes back and forth holding a tool similar to the bit in a lathe. The table the work goes on travels a few thousanths with every stroke. What is this called? Anyone have any idea what a machine like this is worth? Thanks, Dan




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Slowpoke

12-31-2007 00:17:05




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 09:30:01  
I paid $300 for my South Bend 7" shaper about 10 years ago. I have made some very odd shaped parts on it. Yes, it's slow, but it sure beats $1500 and three times the floor space for a milling machine. Don't pass it up! Get it out of there some way. Drag it to the steps, pull it up a ramp made of a couple of 2x6 boards using a come-along attached to your truck. I moved mine by myself, you can too.

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ohio

12-30-2007 15:57:17




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 09:30:01  
It's a shaper, and it's worth about $150 a gross ton.



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greygoat

12-30-2007 11:29:15




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 09:30:01  
I've seen a huge Cincinatti shaper, that must have
weighed 800 pounds, go for $100. Bigger ones
tend to go for scrap price nowadays.



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ohio

12-30-2007 16:02:48




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to greygoat, 12-30-2007 11:29:15  
I've got an 8" logan @ home, but there is a "Gray" planer where I work that has at least 16' of stroke.



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Davis In SC

12-29-2007 21:17:19




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 09:30:01  
The small shapers, such as Atlas & Southbend, usually sell for more than the bigger ones.. Guys with Hobby Shops love the small shapers..



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Dan J

12-29-2007 12:28:21




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 09:30:01  
THANKS! Thats what it looks like. Probably not worth the manpower it's going to take to get it out of the cellar it's in now and back to my shop but I think part of the deal is that all of the stuff must be taken out. Oh, well. Someone once said "There is no free lunch". Thanks again. Dan



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Bob

12-29-2007 12:33:31




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 12:28:21  
Please send it to me!

I lost mine in a shop fire, back in '83.

It was handy to have from time to time!



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JMS/.MN

12-29-2007 11:53:10




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 09:30:01  
My first thought was a shaper, other one- older, was a planer. Check with companies that sell older machines, circa 1940s-50s-6os, etc. Either one travels more than a few thousandths every stroke, but it depends on how much travel they are set up with. Milling machines have either horizontal or vertical milling heads, the vertical head will have its own motor, horizontal is driven off the main machine.

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Spook

12-29-2007 10:36:59




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 09:30:01  
Shapers were very common at one time. My dad had a Cinncinati hydraulic shaper from the early 50's. I don't think they built them after the early 60's. Before hydraulics, there were bullwheel shapers. Generally a couple hundred bucks. My dad sold his business in the late 80's. The guy who bought it had never used a shaper.



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Red Dave

12-29-2007 09:36:05




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 09:30:01  
Sounds like an old-fashioned shaper. They became obsolete when Milling Machines came around



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TimV

12-29-2007 09:34:45




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to Dan J, 12-29-2007 09:30:01  
Dan: it"s called a "shaper". Most of them have went the way of the dodo bird with the rise of the milling machine, but they"re still popular in home shops as they usually go very cheaply compared to a milling machine. Link below has some info and there"s plenty more online.



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deadeye012

12-29-2007 13:11:10




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 Re: What kind of machine is this? in reply to TimV, 12-29-2007 09:34:45  
We used to have a shaper back in the late 50's. We used it to cut key ways in a shaft when you had sprockets and belt pulley's to mount. A lot of the old grain elevators had key way shafts in them...deadeye



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