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engine stand with bearings ???

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John Niolon

12-24-2007 13:58:08




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Ok, I"ve done the search thing and can"t find what I"m looking for so here"s the question...

I"m looking to build a replacement for my wimpy engine stand. It did fine for a small block and some sixes but my next project is a 460 that will top 700 #s fully dressed. My stand will hold the weight but it"s a strain and turning it is near impossible. Grease in the head end helped some but....

I want to build something with bearings in the "head" that can support the load and turn easily. I borrowed one once that the Nat Guard built for deisel engines and it was sweet. Bearings front and rear and it turned like a dream. bolt thru welded nut on top applied the brakes. Seriously heavy duty. I"ve heard of one built with the end pieces of truck/car rearends cut down (with the axle bearings in place) and using the axle for the center rod the engine mouting plate was welded to. Also heard of some using front car spindles or trailer spindles.

Anyone got any plans or pics of what I"m talking about. 700#s is a pretty good end load so it needs to be somewhat substantial... I"d rather have one that turned too easily and I had to adapt some braking than one that I can"t turn at all by myself (which is how I do most of my work).

tia and Merry Christmas to all of you here.

John

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JMS/.MN

12-25-2007 22:05:22




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-24-2007 13:58:08  
Bought a homemade engine stand at an auction- has +/- 2 inch pipes for pivot that the engine plate mounts on. Plate has adjustable arms to match any engine. Pipes have holes drilled every 90 degrees, I put a bolt through, but turning it is difficult. Plan is to weld a thin car flywheel to it, make a bracket to hold a matching (ie- Ford, Chevy, whatever) starter pinion on a shaft with a hand crank on it. Disc behind the crank with multiple holds drilled into it- stick in a bolt to hold the crank in any position.

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ScottP

12-25-2007 07:35:22




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-24-2007 13:58:08  
John
You can use a slack brake adjuster from a big rig to rotate the engine with a 9/16 socket and a air ratchet. My cousin had a stand with one very slick setup.



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John Niolon

12-25-2007 12:29:09




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to ScottP, 12-25-2007 07:35:22  
that's what I'm looking for 'slick set up' got any pictures ???

john



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ScottP

12-25-2007 13:06:38




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-25-2007 12:29:09  
I don't have any pictures of it and when they sold the shop the stand went with it.

I can tell you this much. The adjuster is mounted on the outside of the post of the frame. On the end of the tubing that rotates he had a nut welded on that fit the brake adjuster. This way he could remove the assembly for easier mounting on the engine. When it is slid back into the post the nut slides into the adjuster also.

Get a adjuster and this will all make sense. I hope!

Scott

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335LP

12-24-2007 23:05:59




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-24-2007 13:58:08  
Owatonna Tool Company. Enter "engine stand" into search box at otctools.com and find a 1000 lb., 1250 lb. & 6000 lb. engine stands with worm drive gear box.



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guido

12-25-2007 07:17:35




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to 335LP, 12-24-2007 23:05:59  
Hey 335LP
That is a nice stand. I had one of them at work.
I think it was about $1500, back then. Had all kinds of engines on it mostly diesels.
Guido.



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DLM

12-24-2007 20:44:20




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-24-2007 13:58:08  
You want to use a warm gear drive then you can control it real easy. The big OTC engine stand has a warm drive, i use to put John Deeres big v8 on the OTC and it turned easy.The only way to go for big engines. Don



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Mike in Shendoah Valley

12-27-2007 08:33:46




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to DLM, 12-24-2007 20:44:20  
DLM-YOU MENTIONED DEERE V-8 WHOSE GOT AN OLD ONE FOR SALE? Just looking for one I can get running for display at shows on a homemade frame of sorts. I'm in Va.



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Cliff Neubauer

12-24-2007 18:24:00




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-24-2007 13:58:08  
When I was in high school our shop teacher had a homemade engine stand that used the steering sector gearbox from an IH F-20 tractor and it worked pretty good.



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Dick L

12-24-2007 17:33:38




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-24-2007 13:58:08  
I have not seen any like it for sale anywhere but. My uncle was an Oliver dealer from the 1940's into the 1970's. His had bearings on a frame with the engine rotating end for end. The frame was adjustable so that the engine was or could be balanced. Didn't matter if it was an engine out of a 1850 of a 66 as far as how easy they would turn bottom to top. I saw one on youtube like it a while back for just a second or so. If I find it I will post a link. Not sure I will be able to find it again.

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Dale B

12-24-2007 16:23:38




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-24-2007 13:58:08  
That hand crank model is made by OTC. might look at their catalogue for Ideas



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xragman

12-24-2007 15:45:13




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-24-2007 13:58:08  
I made one over 20 years ago with 1 1/2 in. shalf & pillow block bearings. I was doing some big block engins then. work real good, fixed 8 position rotary plate on shalf.Son loaned it out about 1990, have not seen it since.It was heavey, 4" channel frame, 2 @ 6" wheels on front.



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Mike M

12-24-2007 15:30:44




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 Re: engine stand with bearings ??? in reply to John Niolon, 12-24-2007 13:58:08  
I would be affraid of it getting away from you when turning. I saw one once that had somekinda worm gear drive and a crank to turn it.



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