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OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU

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Fitter Roger

12-13-2007 15:59:56




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Ah the saga never ends...


Flashback to last fall and summer: We had 2 stray or unwanted dogs dropped off at our farm over the course of last year. Thinking that we were doing the right thing we found the owners of one of the dogs, filed a report with the Sherrif and the other dog had no ID we called the Sherrif and took the dog to the county humane society.

Fast forward to today. My wife seen and ad by the same county humane society in the local shopper paper. The ad stated that they have too many cats. Both house cats and ferral barn type cats. So she went down to see if she could help them out by taking either type of cat home.

After filling out 6 pages of paper work and waiting for a review person she was told "HELL NO! we can"t give you a cat."

When she asked why she was told that, "LAST SUMMER WE RELINQUISHED A DOG to THEM!"

My wife told them it was a STRAY that we brought in, we have a Sherrif"s report on it.

That didn"t seem to help and she was told to wait and see if they will call us in a few days!

I guess this proves once again, NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.

I guess I know why some of the neighbors shoot stray dogs. To think we fooled around getting the Sherrif out, loaded the dog into the SUV, hauled it into town 18 miles, cleaned up the mess it left in the SUV, all the time thinking we were doing good.

I forgot to tell you that we have 4 dogs, 3 with vet traceable records going back to when they were born and one that came with the farm. She was left behind un-feed for a year by the former farm owner. That dog, Sparky, is the best dog I have ever owned and I couldn"t farm without her.
I think I will give Sparky a big hug when I get home from work tonite, I"m glad SHE didn"t end up at the humane society! (Before we bought the farm, we used to sneek up to the farm and feed her, for 6 months, it was a 160 mile round trip)

Roger

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Mike (WA)

12-17-2007 17:37:24




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
Wow! Reading the responses below, I guess I'm grateful for the level heads at the local animal shelter. My wife went there several years ago to get a "riding" dog- to go with her when she went trail riding (horseback) in the mountains. She liked a female German Shepherd, who was a "dead dog walking"- scheduled to be euthanized that day. They didn't really ask any questions- wife volunteered that she would be a farm dog, and go the mountains with her. Lady commented, "Sounds like she will have a nice life." They even waived the adoption fee- but we made a contribution anyhow. Sure glad we didn't have to deal with the horse's a$$'$ in the other posts. . .

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WalJohn

12-14-2007 16:53:32




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
I have had my animals killed by dogs that my neighbors let run loose. I will kill any dog on my property. If you like your animals so much, keep them home with you and off my property. Our animal control people are even good enough to be called jokes.



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doug in illinois

12-14-2007 11:46:14




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
When we had our black lab cross fixed at the Humane Society this spring, we asked about adopting a cat from them. No go, we were honest and told them the cat would be an inside and outside cat. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a good mouser around if it can't go outside. I ended up having a kitten "adopt" me on the mail route, would come running up to the car and want in. This is from a farm house out in the country that the owner gets all the mail year round on the route even though he only stays there during farming season. Anyhow, thought this little squawkbox looked and sounded out of place, asked him, sure enough, it had been dumped and he was glad to see it go to a good home. DOUG

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Stan in Oly, WA

12-14-2007 10:27:41




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
Hi Roger,

Bless you for taking care of abused and abandoned animals. It's too bad there's no way to use misery as fuel---there has never, ever, been a shortage of that.

My experience has been that more than 2 out of 3 people will abuse any amount of authority they have. (My belief is that the real figure is closer to 9 out of 10, but I'm trying to be fair about it.) On top of that, most people miss the point of any policy (well intentioned or not) it is their job to administer. If there was a site called Stupid Actions of People in Charge, the supply of examples would be virtually infinite.

In any case where you are outraged by the actions of fools who are in charge of the well being of helpless innocents, the worst thing you can do is to turn your back on the victims. But there's no point butting your head against a wall, either. There is no shortage of miserable, unwanted animals in the world, so if you are thwarted by the stupidity of the staff of one so-called animal shelter, go somewhere else. You can only do what you can do. Millions of unwanted animals are destroyed every year in the U.S. so it hardly matters where you go to get any you can save. But do take MarkB's advice to bring the stupidity to public attention. Stupid administrators who miss the point of what they're supposed to be doing are always subordinate to other (usually equally stupid) administrators. Those in higher positions of authority generally care even less about the actual mission, but they are often very publicity conscious, AND they enjoy bringing grief to their subordinates, (see Lewis's first law of abuse of authority---that would be Stan Lewis, by the way.)

My wife and I have had extremely good experiences dealing with the city animal shelters in Seattle, Tacoma, and Olympia---better than good in some cases. I feel that this is the case because people in the Pacific NW are, on average, intelligent enough to get the point behind what they're doing. Certainly the opposite is true in much of the country.

All the best, Stan

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Balatonm

12-14-2007 08:54:31




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
Thats BS for sure, My Cusin worked for years at the local humainsasiety my Grandma Has 2 Dogs from there, they both run free, gotum with no broblum.

I agree thoe on the shooting thing, Strays make good target practice(Ecpecily if the coasing trouble)



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JD9295

12-16-2007 13:46:20




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Balatonm, 12-14-2007 08:54:31  
you been drinking with allis today?



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Stumpalump

12-14-2007 07:04:37




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
My dog died of old age just over a month ago. I called information and asked for the dog pound to get a new dog. They ansered the phone and I wasn't sure who ansered so I asked if this was the dog pound. She got all upity and corected me by saying this is the Buddy Shelter. I said well I don't know what that is but Im trying to adopt a regular ol dog pound dog like my last one. She gave me directions and they did the same thing to me with the wait and run around. You filled out the six pages and everthing before you can even see the dogs. I wasted way over an hour and finally walked out. Found a real nice Australian Cattle dog on our local 4x4 website. College bound kid whos dad was in a wheelchair just wanted a better place for him. We just love the little beast! The full name of the dog pound was:
The Dumb Freinds League Buddy Center. What a name for a dog pound!

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cj3b_jeep

12-14-2007 04:59:45




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
It's easier to adopt a child than it is to get a cat from these people. We tend to keep cats that are "dropped off" and find them free kittens signs that go up in the spring. BTW, for those that remember the conversation from a few weeks ago, we found a home for the little stray I picked up at the hunting camp. It has two pre-teen girls that give it all the attention it wants.



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rhouston

12-14-2007 04:51:32




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
I have had so many bad experiences with the Catt Co. SPCA that I will NOT EVER go there again. I will not donate to them nor support them in anyway. You cannot get a cat from them if you are going to let them outside. we are not talking outside only we are talking if they want out they go out if they want in they come in type of outside cats. I have 4 cats all of which are strays we picked up or are ones we got from someone else who found them. My cats are all indoor outdoor cats. I do loose one every year or so to the Coyotes but that is the way of things. I hate to do the 3S's but have done it in the past. I remember with remorse every animal I have had to "put down" in this manner. Even getting a stray into the SPCA is a PITA.

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rhouston

12-14-2007 04:53:06




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to rhouston, 12-14-2007 04:51:32  
Lose not Loose someday my fingers will stop doing that double "O"



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CH(upstate,NY)

12-14-2007 04:00:46




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
Went to the ASPCA to get a kitten for my little girl. They took us to the kittens where she fell in love with one of them. They had me asked me all the questions including "are you going to de-claw it" to which I answered maybe. Went back to the little girl where she was snuggling the kitten. The the ASPCA girl pulls me aside and tells me we can't have the kitten because we might have it de-clawed, and that's inhumane.

Went to the pet store and bought her one, no questions asked.

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MarkB_MI

12-14-2007 01:52:31




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
This is one of those rare cases where a letter to the editor of the local paper might actually accomplish something. Any organization that relies on charitable donations can't afford any bad press. If a potential donor reads that they gassed a cat rather than give it to somebody who brought in a stray dog, that donor just might not send in a check this year.



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Robert Huntress

12-14-2007 00:10:48




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
When I was stationed in Buffalo, New York, I was mowing when a family of rabbits shot out of the finish mower deck. Two were so small that they didn't reach the blades. I took them home where my daughter nursed them. One died, even still. No one expected either of them to live, as they were very small. Some nut case told the authorities that I had a cotton tail, which is against state law, but they let it pass since the rabbit came from the Coast Guard base, and the XO said I could let my daughter try to save it. We let it go down here in Tenn, after it was fully grown.

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T_Bone

12-13-2007 21:08:14




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
Hi Roger,

A few years back when my choclate Lab died for no reason, we went to our local Pet-Smart as the local PETA group had lab puppies. During the "interview" the lady ask me if we ever had a dog that died by any means. I stated "Yep, my neighbor killed my dog". Now without asking how or why he had shot my dog, she stated we were done with the interview as they were not about to put any animal in a home that had the potential for the dog to die!!! I just had to laugh in her face for being so stupid. third party image

It's been 3mths since I had to put down our 3yo Lab mix. He was getting very aggressive in his nip biting of kids and grown ups that we couldn't stop and he was killing local farm animals (ducks, chickens, cats and ???). Rather than take a chance that he would do serious harm to someone, we decided to put him down. That sure was a very hard thing to do for me as I never had a animal that I had raised from a pup that I could not control.

T_Bone

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Midwest redneck

12-13-2007 17:33:56




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
The amount of BS you have to go through to get a cat or dog is sooooo stupid. It just goes to show you that the PETA idiots have invaded that sector too. (oh my God...somebody might abuse a dog so we have to run a criminal background check on this guy) Your right no good deed goes unpunished.



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Ken L.

12-13-2007 16:53:53




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
A couple years ago a freind of mine told me that they were rejected form getting a dog from the pound because, they worked for a living. Both of them worked and the pound said that they couldn't have a dog because it shouldn't be left alone. This came from a pound that was whining because they had way more animals than what they could care for. To this day they expect donations. After such stupidity, they sure don't get anything from me or a quite a few others that heard that story.

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Gordy from Iowa

12-14-2007 06:49:14




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Ken L., 12-13-2007 16:53:53  
We wanted to adopt a St.Bernard from the local dog pound. He would have a dog house inside the machine shed with heated water, food, and bedding. He would have 320 acres to roam, hunt, run, etc. After filling out all the paperwork, they said we couldn't have him because every dog they adopt out had to be a HOUSE dog.



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dig

12-14-2007 10:48:02




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Gordy from Iowa, 12-14-2007 06:49:14  
Sounds like the experience I just had with the local Humane Society idiots. I like Rottwielers. The one we have now is ancient, half deaf, and had a stroke last Summer. The Humane Society had an ad in the paper saying it had 6 Rottwieler crosses that it had to get 'adopted.' So the wife and I looked and found a nice year old female. Went through all the paperwork until we got to the question 'Will this be a guard dog?' Uh, yes, it's a farm dog. One of its jobs is to let us know when there's something around that isn't supposed to be. After argueing about that and finally convincing the idiot in charge that we weren't going to train the dog as an attack dog we went on to the next question 'Where will the dog be kept?' She got really upset when I said anywhere it wants to be. Inside. Outside. Wherever, it's a dog. We were informed that even we though live in the middle of 200 acres of corn, beans, and trees with the nearest road 1/8 mile from the house we couldn't have the dog because we wouldn't have control of it. Rottweilers had to be either in the house or in an approved pen at all times. We left. Couple days later I was in the next county over, stopped at the County Dog Pound and found a Rottie/Dobie cross. Woman in charge asked if I lived in town or in the country. I said in the middle of 200 acres of corn and beans. She asked if I wanted to take the dog right then. We now have a new dog that goes wherever it wants to. Where it wants to go is mostly right beside my 90 year old MIL. Which is fine by me because she's mostly deaf and refuses to get a hearing aid. Now she has a living one.

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city farmer

12-13-2007 16:41:36




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
been there done that with the humain society had the same results was told they did not like the vet we have used for 25 years have 2 labs that someone dumped out around now very shy can not get close enough to them to help matter of time before the pound gets them



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RobMD

12-13-2007 16:41:01




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Fitter Roger, 12-13-2007 15:59:56  
I just animal control the stray dogs. They are taken to the humane society through them. "dungeon" pounds are illegal in Maryland. As for stray cats, they keep my place clean of mice.

I don't want anything to do with any peta.



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Dusty MI

12-13-2007 16:55:18




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to RobMD, 12-13-2007 16:41:01  
The Humane Society of the United States is about on the same level as PETA. They want to do away with animal agriculture.



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Davis In SC

12-13-2007 17:45:01




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Dusty MI, 12-13-2007 16:55:18  
Humane society is full of Whackos... Years ago, we had a problem with a vicious dog in the area.. Trying to do the right thing, I called the Humane society to find out the best way to handle it.. This crazy woman starts telling me that saying " No" will stop the meanest dog in its tracks. She said we just needed to go inside, when the dog came around. She also said that if anyone hurts the dog, they had better have bite marks, to prove that they were attacked.. I decided then, that the Humane Soc, is just a bunch of nut cases...

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RobMD

12-13-2007 19:55:36




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 Re: OT Stray dogs story part #2--NO CATS FOR YOU in reply to Davis In SC, 12-13-2007 17:45:01  
Yeah, triple S, shoot, shovel and shut up.

Maybe I'll do that next time instead of being "kind" which is parallels rather paradoxically to "unkind" by the peta.



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