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got taken big t
11-28-2007 19:17:05
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This message is a reply to an archived post by Mike M on March 29, 2004 at 06:15:25.
The original subject was "Cleary Pole Building Co. good?bad?".
My cleary building experiance is one i will never forget. It all started when cleary buildings out bid a contractor that was working on my house. I kept waiting for the building materials and someone to sight the ground to arrive. the building arrived almost a month late and the trailer tiped over damaging some of the material. I got stuck hiring someone to clean up the mess. Then I was called three days before the crew arrived and told to site it and bring it up to grade. I tried my best to site the work area and brought fill in and had it leveled.
next problem the counter weight fell off the tractor that had the auger. Then they directed a dump truck to unload fill on the neighbors land. I got stuck hiring someone else to clean that up to. Then the post's started to go up everthing seemed to be ok except the height was off and some fill went under them. Then the girts were nailed on i noticed gaps between some and others were just barely on the post. I was shocked to see that every girt had bent over nails. The workers claimed the nail guns wouldnt shoot the nails in all the way. This was not my first pole barn and i could see they were not the right nails. I took pictures and video taped the salesman agreeing to fix. they never did and covered it up. They put bent/dented, scratched and poorly cut tin on building. Also the bent over nails left lumps and mud was left under the tin and on the girts. light could be seen threw the walls. The over head door was put in at wrong height.The roof was nailed on and they kept missing the boards if that wasnt bad enough one post was to high and it was bent over it. I noticed that some things were missing like closure strips. when i looked at their prints they were blacked out mine were not. I also found other areas wood was missing. Other things that happened were the workers would bring treated wood in and swap it. They left beer bottles in the building. the finished building is a joke and not worth what i paid. Some days later it rained and expected some settling but not for the area around poles to drop 4' to 5'. trying to get them to do repairs is almost impossible. if you look at the contract it sates if you pay for it or use it you except it. If you dont pay you owe them intrest. I bought the extra boards for the bottom that they expect the owner to put on. But after complaining i was told if I put them on it may have voided the warranty. good thing i didnt. I contacted the attorney general with help they did some repairs but they were slow, selective, sloppy and swap damaged material for damaged material. One thing they did was put stitch screws at every panel to try to close the gaps. I didnt hear from them for four months. One day i came home find they took tin off to get in building but couldnt put it back on because the lost the screws. So i had to find them screws the tin they put on was covered with mud and weeds. the weeds stuck out from under the tin. For some reason they had every door open in the building. i later found the missing screws along with others in the loft and i also found that i got robbed big time. It seems they hired someone that got fired for theft from another company and sent him my way. I was told a few days later he quit. So now i can add another $1200 to my loss. I complained /filed a police report. the representative from cleary stated Dan Cleary is a cheap man and isnt going to do anything unless he is forced to. I was also informed they insure themselves. So i did what everyone would do i sued them. The building still has damaged tin , bent over nails, mud under tin, a garage door that seperated, holes with no screws, a crooked walk in door. A post with a section busted out of it they filled full of silicone, light coming in between tin not seated on tin. holes siliconed over in the roof. I had a loft built in the building and found out that the poles are not straight. when the rafters were put the distance was smaller at the top and larger at bottom.The trim on this building is twisted wich i thought was strange, so i took a level to it and yep it's wavy. I could only afford small claims and i was armed with video, pictures, papers, police report, names of workers and showing they had a criminal record. The only thing i didnt have was any estimates not from the lack of trying. I had contractors come out and heard over and over its not worth it. they dont want to get envolved and no one would sink that kind of money into it. their is no incentive. The out come was the court stated that Cleary breached it's duties and i suffered damages. Also they breached the contract/warranty and that the building was not built in a workman like fashion and fit for a particular purpose.
But since i had no estimates no dollar amount could be estimated. Also Cleary said they were willing to do repairs.I'm still waiting and they changed their tune after we go out of court. Next i filed a appeal. I got it but the judge William L THOMAS denied the estimate.The estimate was almost $11.000. the court limit is only $5000 If he was going to deny it then why grant me the appeal ? Only in IOWA can you prove your case and walk away with less than you had.
So now i'm telling everyone of my experiance. Be aware of this company. look them up at your local court house to see how many times they have been in court. Here in IOWA their are alot!! I was shocked that the attorney general is aware of the trouble they have caused so many. So why let it continue????? On my last talk with the Attorney generals office i was told they would like to hear from more people with complaints. If you are having trouble with them report it. If im lucky enough to have Dan Cleary read this, i didnt like getting screwed and i hope alot of people read it and take notice. If you want me to quit telling my story to everyone all i can say is i would like get back what i lost. A final thought maby Cleary should have hired employees with building experiance instead of temps with a rap sheet.
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