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Stumpalump

11-27-2007 06:52:04




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I'm getting an anvil for Christmas. Allways wanted one. Of course my inlaw city folks are going to ask so I need creative things to tell them what it's for. What do you use yours for?




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B.T.S

12-07-2007 05:05:45




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Tom Clark at Ozark School of Blacksmithing makes some fantastick anvils. He's a real pro. They don't come cheap but they will be antiques in about a hundred years or sooner.



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Randy SE-MN.

11-29-2007 18:16:22




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
I have my great great grandfathers anvil, his Champion No 1 Forge (I rebuilt that & it works great), his post drill and stand vise. I fire up the forge in the spring and fall when it cools off outside (havn't put up a hood inside for it yet) and just enjoy makin' anything that comes to mind. The anvil does have some wear...I wish I knew someone knowledgeable enough to build it back up "properly" and heat treat it.

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rockyhawaii

11-28-2007 14:40:21




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Just an idea on where to get an anvil. I use the counterweight of an old forklift. mine weighs 500 lbs. and has to be moved with the forklift, but it's not likely to be stolen.



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Fawteen

11-28-2007 02:07:42




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
My "anvil" is a hunk of steel I came across whilst cruising the roads on the town's annual Bulk Trash Pickup day.

It's about 12" square and 8" thick, weighing a computed 200 pounds, with a handy 1" hole bored through it on one side. I have it sitting at a convenient height on a 24" diameter piece of Hackamatack (Eastern Larch) stump.

About the only thing it needs is a horn for making curved stuff. But for straightening, flattening and just generally beating hell out of stuff, it's as handy as a pocket on a shirt.

And the price was right...

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ken in texas

11-27-2007 19:03:25




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Try looking at www.anvilfire.com lots of information.



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Swampcat

11-27-2007 15:40:18




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Bob, I like the way you described the placement of you tools and how they add to your contentment. I know what you mean. When I was 15 years old my grandfather who I was pretty close to died. He had been a blacksmith, wheelwright and wagon builder. I was able to save a few of his tools when his shop was torn down. Someone gave me a portable forge, one a little bigger than a riveters forge, and I bought a 155 lb anvil and leg vise with six inch jaws. Boy, did I have fun. I just wished my grandfather had been there with me. I think he was there in spirit, though. Interests changed and I stopped forging but I still have the tools and still use a few of the things I cobbled together on the anvil. Jacques

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Graham from N.Z.

11-27-2007 15:30:05




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
I have a homemade anvil I bought second hand in 1950's. Made from 2.6' of I Beam, about 9" wide and 10" high. Cut to a point one end to form a horn, one or two holes drilled to straighten things etc. The bottom flange has the 4 corners rounded and sits nicely on an old Ford model T or A engine block (no head or sump). Puts it up to useful height
This anvil has stood up to much 4lb hammer use straightening all sorts of machinery pieces.

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1936

11-27-2007 13:58:11




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
I look at this ebay site at different times. Always has outstanding anvils and black smith tools. "matchlessantiques". Always sell exceptionally well.



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Stan in Oly, WA

11-27-2007 14:28:20




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 Re: Anvil in reply to 1936, 11-27-2007 13:58:11  
Hi 1936,

Ever since reading what you had to say about your Border Collie under the topic Trespassing Laws, Hunters, and Dogs a week ago, I've been meaning to tell you that I think you're a good guy.

All the best, Stan



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hd6gtom

11-27-2007 13:05:09




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Someone stol mine . Was gramps, mounted to an ash stump. Hope they dropped it on their toe.



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Stan in Oly, WA

11-27-2007 11:35:51




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Hi again stumpalump,

I just thought of a couple of things that might be of interest to you. A number of people who are connected to the welding shop at the local CC in some way, including the head of the department, have made their own anvils. I made a small one for my wife to use for jewelry making out of a length of railroad rail--no horn or holes, of course.

The department head at the college welding shop made a 150lb anvil out of lengths of forklift forks and filler metal. One summer evening about three years ago I watched him apply about 50lbs of filler metal using dual shield wire feed set at about 250 amps---wearing a short sleeved shirt. Turned his arms red. The resulting anvil was literally a work of art, as well as being everything a high quality anvil should be. I've got forklift forks to make one for myself but it's not a high priority as long as I've got the use of the college shop.

Recently two other instructors made anvils, one for himself (I haven't seen that one) and one for the school. The one for the school is made from a 44" X 8" length of 6" plate. It currently has a raised triangular piece in the center and is on axles in a frame so that it can be turned to use whichever face is appropriate. The plan is to air arc gouge hemispherical depressions of various sizes for beating curves in sheet metal, etc. I'm taking a wait-and-see position on that idea.

All the best, Stan

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MNBob

11-27-2007 11:24:43




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Auctions etc; Best ones go high. I finally gave up and bought an Acme. Good anvil but edges get chipped off. Great for taking sections (riveted) off in the shop. If I dont use it a few times a week it must be to cold to work.



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Stan in Oly, WA

11-27-2007 11:42:35




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 Re: Anvil in reply to MNBob, 11-27-2007 11:24:43  
Hi Bob,

You can resurface (re-edge in your case) an anvil using hardsurfacing electrodes, then grind to the required amount of finish. You'd want to read up on resurfacing procedure before you did it because there are things you definitely wouldn't want to do. The time I saw it done it involved dumping a ton of heat into the anvil with a rosebud before starting the welding. Still, it didn't seem all that expensive for what was accomplished.

All the best, Stan

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135 Fan

11-27-2007 10:52:31




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Get an ACME anvil and say it's for catching roadrunners. Dave



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Rob in Indiana

11-27-2007 10:49:10




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
I hope your getting a real old timy anvil and not a harbor freight POS.

I have several but then Im also a blacksmith.



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railhead

11-29-2007 03:57:34




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Rob in Indiana, 11-27-2007 10:49:10  
Anvil sites call those harpor freet type of junk anvils ASO's or Anvil Shaped Objects. They are trash.



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TPN

11-27-2007 12:41:23




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Rob in Indiana, 11-27-2007 10:49:10  
For what I use mine for, the Harbor Freight POS works just fine. If I were to use one in my line of work on a daily basis, I would look for an old anvil, however, they just don't turn up for sale very often. I did see one that was around 400# in Kentucky setting in a pile of junk, however it was not for sale. It was by far the largest one I have ever seen.



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Mr. Bob

11-27-2007 15:07:41




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 Re: Anvil in reply to TPN, 11-27-2007 12:41:23  
Roughly 30 years ago I was at the machine shop where I used to occasionaly help the proprieter. He acquired the largest anvil that I've ever seen. I asked him how heavy it was. He grinned and said, "Pick it up off its stand and you tell me". It was at aheight where I could bend over just a little, wrap my arms around it and lift. I picked it up held it VERY breifly and set it back on its stand. I told him I had no idea, but that it was very heavy. He grinned and told me that he had weighed it when he got it at 500#. I wouldn't want one that large. Mine was my great grandfather's blacksmith anvil and weighs 150#; much handier. I don't use it often, but when I need it, it comes in very handy and can easily be moved. I've also chained it to the bumper on my 2N for ballast when carrying something very heavy on the 3 point hitch. Mr. Bob

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flying belgian

11-27-2007 17:49:00




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Mr. Bob, 11-27-2007 15:07:41  
Years ago I new a very strong guy who worked at a seed warehouse. someone once asked him if he could lift a stack of 10 50# bags of seed. He said if he could get a grip on it he could lift it. They then set a stack up waist high and he reached around the bottom bag and lifted it about 10". Saw it with my own eyes.



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Goose

11-27-2007 10:29:42




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
I have one, but it's just sitting on the floor in a different building from my shop. Not that I couldn't use it on occasion.

BTW, I heard once that when you buy an anvil the price is set by about 10% for the anvil and 90% shipping and handling.



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nballen

11-27-2007 10:23:35




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Take your pick....

Can-crusher
Flea-flattener
Mouse-masher
Paper weight
Tractor tie-down

'course I don't have an anvil, so these are just silly suggestions.

Nathaniel



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Quebec Bob

11-27-2007 10:22:46




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
I just finished my farm shop, after 30 years of hoping. In putting the finishing touches on it I am conscious of the fact that some of the items (a certain picture on the wall from a deceased friend) and the location of some of my tools is important to the sense of contentment I feel in there. Key among these is the location of my old anvil. It came from my late Uncle's shop, is mounted on a block of elm and is located beside the wood stove, where the town blacksmith always had his. I used to love to watch him perfom his magic on it whenever I could get to his shop as a kid.

I use mine often to heat and bend or unbend. Sometimes I look for excuses to use it as I come to realize more and more that on a cold winter day with the woodstove humming, the placement of some of my tools is part of my past and just flat out makes me feel good.

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Bill in IL

11-27-2007 09:59:27




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
I have an old one that was given to me as a gift that I need to clean up and paint. Sure works great to do any sort of hammering. Just think of the mass of a 100lb anvil vs a 4lb sledge you do the math the anvil just doesn't move.

Old wiley coyote sure had lots of good uses for anvils.



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mjbrown

11-27-2007 09:59:19




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
I've heard that in Montana an anvil hanging from a length of chain is used as a wind guage.



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Jerry/MT

11-27-2007 21:12:45




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 Re: Anvil in reply to mjbrown, 11-27-2007 09:59:19  
This is a true, but little known fact, about Montana. also, when the links on the chain start snapping, this is what Montanans call "a big wind". Of course Monatnans are also known for telling "big windies".



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Cliff (VA)

11-27-2007 09:46:55




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
I have to agree with Ken. Once you have an anvil ready and accessible you will find uses for it. It is amazing how many times having a large immovable object in your shop will help. Besides the obvious straitening and bending metal, I have used mine for knocking on replacement handles, setting snaps and grommets, etc.

I have 3 anvils that I have acquired over time: The broken one (has no horn) sits beside my workbench for general use, the ugly one is in my metal working area mounted on a section of elm log, and the "good" anvil is going to go in my forge building when I get it built. I haven't set the forge back up since I moved.

Enjoy your new anvil.

Cliff (VA)

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GeneMO

11-27-2007 09:10:07




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Where can you get a good anvil? Can you get an American made one? I would love to have one that was about 100 years old and in good shape.


Gene



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Mr. Bob

11-27-2007 15:41:51




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 Re: Anvil in reply to GeneMO, 11-27-2007 09:10:07  
My old time blacksmith's anvil belonged to my great greatdfather. b.1849, died 1930, 15 years, nearly, before I was born. I've beat on metal on it from everything from light hammers to an 18# sledge; never hurt it a bit. Most of these newer ones that I've seen are too soft. Mr. Bob



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335LP

11-27-2007 09:32:38




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 Re: Anvil in reply to GeneMO, 11-27-2007 09:10:07  
Don't know myself but maybe someone here does...



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Stan in Oly, WA

11-27-2007 08:56:38




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Hi stumpalump,

The thing I probably use an anvil for the most is to straighten metal. Next would be to unstraighten metal. Often a long scrap of steel that I intend to use to strengthen a weld will not be perfectly flat. Usually I can make it flat with some cold working; I can always make it flat if I take the time to heat it. Similarly, a rod or bar can be straightned or bent, as required, by using the Hardie hole (square) or the Pritchell hole (round).

I have used the anvil and forge for elements of metal art projects (which you could tell your relatives you intend to try, although eventually there'll come a "put up or shut up" event with that claim), but blacksmithing is not my process of choice. Still, when you need to quickly shape a piece of metal, and precision is not an issue, there's often no better way to do it than with a forge (or rosebud) and an anvil.

All the best, Stan

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Ken Crisman

11-27-2007 08:30:34




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 Re: Anvil in reply to Stumpalump, 11-27-2007 06:52:04  
Well , an anvil can be used in many ways . I"ve used mine as a weight to hold something flat & secure on the bench while doing something at the other end . Also I"ve used mine to form metal for various projects . My anvil is extremely rough & I don"t have any of the various accessaries that fit into the square hole for other neat forming jobs but wish I did . HTH ! God bless, Ken



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