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Cutting torch gas pressures

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Skybow

11-26-2007 10:04:11




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I just got a whole set-up and have the new tanks. I'm not sure what pressure to crank the O2 to so I can cut some 1/4th inch steel. I've been told to never crank the Aceytlene past 15 and in fact my Smith gauges have a redline above 15 psi. Where do I set my O2 to so I can cut?

Thanks in advance

Skybow




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dave guest

12-01-2007 18:38:24




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Skybow, 11-26-2007 10:04:11  
I really got an eye opener. Somebody told me Oxygen 50psi about 20 years ago. Never tried anything else. Use propane to save money, but guess I wasted all on Oxy. Thanks.



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JMS/.MN

11-27-2007 09:03:32




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Skybow, 11-26-2007 10:04:11  
Flashback arrestors are a good idea, too.



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Doug N

11-27-2007 00:43:34




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Skybow, 11-26-2007 10:04:11  
Guido is right, 20-25 lbs of Oxygen. For everyone telling you 30-40 lbs, Obviously they don't buy their own oxygen. For 1/4", 30-40 lbs is a WASTE. I use 40 lbs to cut 2 1/2" plate!

Stan is right with the Acty, DO NOT OPEN ALL THE WAY! In case of fire or some emergency, you need to get the ACTY shut off ASAP. Just my two cents.

Doug N



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ohio

11-27-2007 17:36:38




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Doug N, 11-27-2007 00:43:34  
Would have agreed with you, if i had never seen a pantograph burner run. Use alot of O2 cutting fast, or use alot of O2 cutting slow, yer choice.



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135 Fan

11-27-2007 11:15:54




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Doug N, 11-27-2007 00:43:34  
Who is everyone telling him to use 30 or 40 pounds? If you read my post, I said 30 PSI is good for most cutting applications. I did not give a specific thickness. More importantly, I told him to get a manual before he proceeds with anything. The reason for this is because it is obvious from his post that he doesn't have a lot of experience with an oxy/acetylene outfit. Before you're so quick to critisize someones advice, perhaps reading it over again would help. Stan is right. Sometimes someone has to be nit picky. Dave

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Doug N

11-27-2007 14:09:15




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to 135 Fan, 11-27-2007 11:15:54  
Yeah, what was I thinking? I thought he was asking about cutting 1/4" plate, not "MOST CUTTING APPLICATIONS"

You gave your opinion to his post, and so did I. Silly me, I thought that's what forums were for. Besides, what made you think I was singling you out? Did you have a bad day today or what? Doug N



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135 Fan

11-27-2007 19:25:06




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Doug N, 11-27-2007 14:09:15  
I gave a general answer because most people don't bother adjusting pressures for every single thickness and usually cut different thicknesses of material. No I didn't have a bad day. There was my post that said 30 and another post that said 40. That singled me out along with one other. I as stated, a manual would give pressure settings. It also depends on what make and type of torch it is. The size and length of hoses can effect pressures. 30 PSI at the regulator is not necessarily 30 PSI at the torch. With extra long or too small of hoses sometimes the regulators need to be turned quite a bit more. Some torch sets can use more gas than others for the same job. Whether or not the steel is clean or dirty and other factors can dictate what pressures to use. Based on many variables 30 PSI would be a good general starting point for cutting 1/4 inch and pretty much any thickness up to around an inch. You like to use bold print. In most cases people consider it yelling. For serious safety issues it is good to use. For giving an opinion it isn't really necessary. Without knowing all the specifics, I gave an accurate and educated answer based on the info I read. You needn't take offence to it. Dave

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Doug N

11-28-2007 01:03:49




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to 135 Fan, 11-27-2007 19:25:06  
"You needn't take offence to it."

Seems to me you're the one that took offense from my first post.

"You like to use bold print." Yeah, I do, for 95% of the people that don't read the entire post before answering. Bold print tends to catch the eye, makes people read more. Why, does that bother you?



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135 Fan

11-28-2007 10:39:33




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Doug N, 11-28-2007 01:03:49  
In your first post, you didn't just give advice. You singled me out as I was the only one who said 30 PSI and then inferred that I must not be too smart and didn't by my own oxygen as I wasted it. Sorry, your words not mine. Dave



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Coloken

11-26-2007 17:46:38




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Skybow, 11-26-2007 10:04:11  
You an use 40 pounds of O2 if you want..thats enough to cut like 6 inch plate. Or you can use like 12 or 15 pounds for most things and save a bunch if you are paying for the stuff yourself.



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Dick L

11-26-2007 12:15:16




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Skybow, 11-26-2007 10:04:11  
I set mine up for mapp. 5# on the mapp and 20# on the oxy. Cuts like a dream. Costs a lot less also.



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guido

11-26-2007 11:31:48




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Skybow, 11-26-2007 10:04:11  
Hey Skybow
You match the tip size with the oxygen and acetelene in P.S.I. 1/16 to 1/8 metal tickness you use 000 tip size, Pressure for oxy. is 20 to 25# acytelene 3 to 5#
For 1/4' metal 00 tip SAME PRESSURE. It does not sound like much but it comes from Victor's guide for welding heating and cutting guide. Free at you local dealer. I hand It them out in class to all the students, we got them through the factory for free.
Don't forget to open the tank valves fully and use the regulators to obtain the proper pressure with the torch on.

Guido.

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Stan in Oly, WA

11-26-2007 15:01:51




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to guido, 11-26-2007 11:31:48  
Hi Guido,

I'm aware that this totally qualifies as nit-picking, but somebody's got to pick those nits, darn it. The oxygen needs to have the valve opened all the way because it's a high pressure bottle with valve packing at the top of the stem. If it's not opened fully it can lose oxygen around the top of the stem. We agree on that. But the acetylene (or other fuel gas) is not in a HP bottle, and does not have an upper valve seat. Common practice, purely for safety reasons, is to open the fuel valve no more than 3/4 to 1-1/2 turn so that you can get it shut off in a hurry should the need arise. Likewise, on the old bottles that open with a wrench rather than with a handle, the common practice is to leave the wrench in place for the same reason. The Victor pamphlet you spoke of makes a note of this on page 20.

All the best, Stan "We will pick no nit before its time" Lewis

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guido

11-27-2007 16:06:22




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 11-26-2007 15:01:51  
Hey Stan

You are wright about the opening of the bottle and havimg the wrenh on the valve. It is though to cover all the procedures in a small paragragh. I had more time in my class room to get the students to get it wright. Enyhow, I always welcome constructive criticism, and never intented or hoped to cover the matter totally.

Guido.



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Stan in Oly, WA

11-28-2007 08:04:18




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to guido, 11-27-2007 16:06:22  
Hi Guido,

My thought when I read your post was that it slipped your mind. I didn't think my observation was particularly important, either.

There's a big social/recreational aspect to a forum like this. People like me who believe that it's important to be productive can engage in the sharing of information without the nagging feeling that it's a waste of time, as we might feel if we spent the same amount of time blogging, or doing crossword puzzles. Eventually we'll all be dead either way. I mean, except for Elvis, of course.

All the best, Stan

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Stan in Oly, WA

11-26-2007 11:29:49




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Skybow, 11-26-2007 10:04:11  
Hi Skybow,

You mentioned Smith gauges. Is your cutting torch also Smith? If it is, let me know what you think of it after you've had a chance to use it for awhile. Over the past couple of years I've picked up 2 brand new Smith torches on eBay for amazingly low prices. I'm impressed by the quality of the construction and by some of the features, but not so much by the design. Specifically, the location of the oxygen jet lever is awkward for me. Even though it's reversible, I don't think that would solve the problem. I've mostly used Victor torches for cutting, but I've also used no-brand Chinese equipment and don't remember experiencing this problem---so I don't think it's just a matter of what I'm used to.

All the best, Stan

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135 Fan

11-26-2007 10:52:08




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Skybow, 11-26-2007 10:04:11  
About 5 PSI on acetylene and 30 for oxygen will work fine for most cutting. 40 PSI isn't needed unless your cutting heavy plate over an inch thick. With your new torch set, read the manual completely before you even hook up the gauges. It should have tip sizes and pressures listed in it. If it didn't come with a manual, get one before you use your torch. Dave



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RobMD

11-26-2007 10:19:11




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 Re: Cutting torch gas pressures in reply to Skybow, 11-26-2007 10:04:11  
You MEVER need more than ~7 pounds~ of acetylene.

For cutting with the torch, you will need 40 pounds of 0xygen on the line.

The trick to cutting is to heat the edge to a bright yellow, then pull the trigger. Cut along slowly, got to keep that steady hand.. :)



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