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Stanley, Blackhawk, Proto Tools

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RobertTX

07-11-2001 08:12:44




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I have been torque wrench shopping. In researching, I cam across this disappointing information.
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Larry Garbarek

07-12-2001 11:59:04




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 Re: Stanley, Blackhawk, Proto Tools in reply to RobertTX, 07-11-2001 08:12:44  
Stanley is a worldwide company with factories and contacts in most industrialized countries.

I've visited the Stanley booth at a hardware shown at Cologne, Germany, and Stanley had simple combination wrenches on display from 3 or 4 European countries. This was not a mixture so the buyer could choose the country he prefered, but, one size would be made in Germany, the next size in Austria, then Spain, etc., etc. You were to buy the Stanley brand and Stanley would decide where in the world it should be made.

Stanley Proto used to ship Asian forgings of combination wrenches to Mexico for finishing. Where the finished tools ended up after that I do not know.

Some Williams tools were made in Mexico.

Some Challenger tools were made in Japan.

The list is endless and it changes daily.

The bottom line is that Stanley imports some of the tools it sells. After Stanley was caught by the U.S. government for misleading advertising and package labeling, I believe Stanley has become more careful in identifying the country of origin but they certainly played games in the past.

However, I believe it is misleading to state that Proto, for example, is imported as a reader questions. Most or at least many Proto tools have been made until recently in a state of the art factory in the US. I believe this is still true today.

Others, like Danaher, who supplies many but not all Craftsman tools, seems to not mix U.S. made tools with those they import. They used to import a few Japanese adjustable wrenches for their defunct EASCO range, but, this has possibly ended. At least until recently, Danaher (Allen, Armstrong, K-D) has been made in USA.

Wright tools seems to be strictly U.S. made. Possibly Cooper is the same. Channelock's pliers are probably made in U.S.A. but their adjustable wrenches are from Spain. Klein seems to stay away from imports.

S-K sometimes tries to sell tools from their parent, Facom of France.

CDI torque wrenches are still made, I believe, in the U.S.A. CDI is owned by Snap-On.

The above information was current a couple of years ago, but, changes seem to occur daily and it is difficult/impossible for any outsider to know where tools are being made for major U.S. brands.

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Walter McClain

04-13-2005 11:22:44




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 Re: Re: Stanley, Blackhawk, Proto Tools in reply to Larry Garbarek, 07-12-2001 11:59:04  
I have an old Brace with the name Challenger followed by a large asterisk. No other markings are on it. Could this be a tool made in Japan?? I know Stanley owns the Challenger name for tools now but have they always owned the name??



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Mark/Ks

07-12-2001 07:57:37




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 Re: Stanley, Blackhawk, Proto Tools in reply to RobertTX, 07-11-2001 08:12:44  

I had allways thought Proto was Amarican made.
It seems to be a good tool. I have several.
Does this mean that Proto is not American made. Does anybody know how long Stanley has been making Proto tools overseas??



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Bud Vance

07-12-2001 17:48:36




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 Re: Re: Stanley, Blackhawk, Proto Tools in reply to Mark/Ks, 07-12-2001 07:57:37  
I have owned Proto and Mac tools for years. I have never had any trouble with the Proto brand, but have broken several Mac 1/2 inch drive sockets they just don't seem to hold up. But have never broken a Mac wrench.



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Branden

07-11-2001 13:20:53




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 Re: Stanley, Blackhawk, Proto Tools in reply to RobertTX, 07-11-2001 08:12:44  
Go with a Proto Torque wrench. Good quality. My second choice would be a CDI. I know, because my dad owns a calibration business, and I repair and calibrate torque wrenches from time to time for him. I believe that Proto and CDI are American made, and that CDI makes the wrenches for Snap-on, amongst other companies. I'll check with my dad if you have other questions.

Branden



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stanton c calvert

01-03-2004 18:11:22




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 Re: Re: Stanley, Blackhawk, Proto Tools in reply to Branden, 07-11-2001 13:20:53  
I noticed your comment that you sometimes repair and calibrate "Proto" torque wrenches. I have a Proto #6015 that has been used only a few times and not in seveal years. When I got it out to use today it wouldn't release. Are you willing to take it on? if not, do you know who will? thank you, stanton calvert



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