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Diesel Oil Filter Interchange

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Roger V

11-20-2007 18:40:27




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Is it safe/acceptable to replace my New Holland brand diesel oil filter with one that "fits" such as a Fram for a gasoline vehicle?




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mj

11-30-2007 15:12:02




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to higgins, 11-20-2007 18:40:27  

Davis In SC said: (quoted from post at 21:39:21 11/21/07) FleetGuard is a division of Cummins..


and is now called 'Cummins Filtration Fleetguard'.

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Roger V

11-26-2007 13:52:26




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to Roger V, 11-20-2007 18:40:27  
Thanks for all of the replys.



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335LP

11-21-2007 12:56:49




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to Roger V, 11-20-2007 18:40:27  
It might get you by in a pinch doing that but probably not recommended by filter maker for that engine. Check the filter makers site or google for it and can probably find out what the filter you have fits. I know some of the by pass flow add on filter bases made by Wix, Fram, Baldwin or others are going to use the same filter in by pass or full flow type no matter what fuel type is.

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Slowpoke

11-21-2007 12:21:42




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to Roger V, 11-20-2007 18:40:27  
What's the NH number?



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Roger V

11-26-2007 13:48:19




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to Slowpoke, 11-21-2007 12:21:42  
The NH number is 87415600.



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Slowpoke

11-27-2007 00:11:57




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to Roger V, 11-26-2007 13:48:19  
Sorry, my Napa Gold catalog for 2001 doesn't list that number.



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jokers

11-21-2007 07:17:09




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to Roger V, 11-20-2007 18:40:27  
I`ve been using a Fram, think it`s a PH16, on my Ford 1720 for 13 years now with no ill affect.

I know that alot of people have the blanket impression that there are better filters than Fram on the market but to that I say it depends on what criteria makes one filter better than another in your particular circumstances.

From reading a couple of filter tests several years back I remember that certain brands of filter, Wix being one of them, filtered smaller particles when new, but many of those filters also blinded and started flowing through the bypass sooner as well.

It`s also a fact with mechanical filters that as larger chunks of debris get trapped on a filter, the effective pore sizes get smaller thus causing them to filter to a smaller size particle.

There are other factors to consider when choosing a brand filter, one of the most important being durability of construction but I`ve only had one filter ever break apart on me and it was a NAPA Gold, which if I`m not mistaken is a Wix. I am not at all badmouthing Wix on one failure either, I still use them as applicable.

As a final thought, just be sure that your warranty will not be voided by your oil filter choice. My Dodge truck has a Cummins engine and they have a list of approved filters, Fram is not one of them, although I may have used a few on the occassions where I was in a pinch for an oil change.

To add to this I read on a Dodge Diesel discussion forum recently where FleetGuard apparently manufactured a batch of bad filters which broke apart in use subsequently blocking oil journals within several engines. The end result was several ruined Cummins engines. FleetGuard is the OEM filter manufacturer for Cummins if I`m not mistaken. I guess my point is to change your oil regularly, keep on eye on the engines vital signs, and don`t agonize over using a Fram filter.

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Davis In SC

11-21-2007 19:39:21




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to jokers, 11-21-2007 07:17:09  
FleetGuard is a division of Cummins..



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135 Fan

11-20-2007 23:38:35




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to Roger V, 11-20-2007 18:40:27  
You don't have to use the OEM filter. There are better filters than Fram though. Dave



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Russ from MN

11-20-2007 19:33:59




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 Re: Diesel Oil Filter Interchange in reply to Roger V, 11-20-2007 18:40:27  
Wix has a very good website and is a top rated filter, and, readily available in my area.



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