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mark riggleman

11-15-2007 09:03:34




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i have a massey 35, it stopped on me the other day, i put new points and plugs in and still get no fire, anyone have an idea of what my problem may be




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Jerry/MT

11-15-2007 19:21:34




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 Re: need some advice in reply to mark riggleman, 11-15-2007 09:03:34  
If your not getting a spark, first check the primary circuit to make sure that you have battery voltage to the coil with the key on and the points OPEN. You should have battery voltage on both sides of the coil with the points open. If the battery side shows less then battery voltage, you have some high resistance in the circuit from the battery to the coil. Check that circuit, including the key switch. You can also run a jumper from the battery directly to the coil and check the spark. If you get a spark, you know that the primary circuit has a problem.

If the battery side of the coil shows battery voltage and the distributor side shows near zero with the points open, you have a short in the wire to the distributor.

Now close the points, and the distributor side of the coil should drop to near zero. If it doesn"t, your points are dirty or corroded or you have a bad disributor ground. Finally, check the center wire from the distuibutor to the coil by removing it from the cap and the coil. Sometimes they get corroded and don"t conduct. Check the rotor contact with the burtton in the top of the cap and make sure it making a connection.

Finally, make sure that distributor shaft/bushing is not badly worn. With the points closed push radially(from the side ) on the distributor shaft and watch the points. They should not move. The allowable shaft run out is about 0.002". A badly worn shaft will rotate and wobble badly enough to give you an intermitent or very weak saprk or possibly no spark at all.

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trucker40

11-15-2007 19:03:55




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 Re: need some advice in reply to mark riggleman, 11-15-2007 09:03:34  
Hit the starter with the cap off and see if the distributor turns,check fuel anyway,might not be getting any,if it sets outside in the rain a lot some of the electrical connections might be a little rusty not making contact,like from switch to coil,wire my have shook off somewhere.Sometimes new points arent any good,might not be set right,maybe slipped after you set them.Could be the distributor cap or the coil wire.If it sets outside a lot I think I would check that coil wire that goes to the distributor on both ends.I was working on a welder a while back and did all that you did but when I took the cap back off and pulled the bug off I noticed that the contact was loose,replaced that and it ran.

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IH2444

11-15-2007 09:55:50




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 Re: need some advice in reply to mark riggleman, 11-15-2007 09:03:34  
Are you getting battery voltage on the battery side of the coil with ignition turned on ?



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cj3b_jeep

11-15-2007 09:24:53




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 Re: need some advice in reply to mark riggleman, 11-15-2007 09:03:34  
Condensor, coil? That's about it for the spark system. Sometime, even if you put in a new condensor, they will be bad right out of the box.



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ddd

11-15-2007 09:24:32




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 Re: need some advice in reply to mark riggleman, 11-15-2007 09:03:34  
did you replace the condenser? Are you getting 6 volts at the coil? Is the distributor cap and rotor good and free of corrosion?



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