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tomatolord

07-09-2001 16:49:17

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I would like to learn how to weld

Should I learn the gas or the electric type.

I want to do some light weight welding some garden art and repair or make my own tools especialy for the small tractor I own.

thanks - I do not want to earn a living doing this, just a hobby welder if there is such a thing.

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Jason Franklin

12-11-2006 11:42:34

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

can someone please teach me how to weld

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SDBVGF uiISF

03-09-2006 07:12:28

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

hEY NOW.

tHIS PALCE IS STUPID - NOBODY SEEMED TO REPLY TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION - they just kept re-iterating it.

For most of you, a Hobart 140 or Lincoln 135 (wire feeds) will work nicely. You can weld up to 1/4" thick. I've got a Hobart, and have been pleased. The tech guys at the factory help me whenever I have a question.

To learn welding, You need to understand just a few basics (many are listed right in the owners manual).

From there on out, it's all about the practice!

P.S. Try not to start your garage on fire - I did.

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KEN WOLF

06-23-2006 19:32:41

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to SDBVGF uiISF, 03-09-2006 07:12:28

come on ! i ask how to weld on the internet everyone says u can find everything upon anything on the internet but jesus christ! all i want r some answers from real people that actually weld i no u have to do the things hands on but has anyone ever thought about videos! if someone can find and informational paragragh tell me so i can shut up!

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titus loyd

02-14-2006 06:55:52

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

I am a welding student and I was just wondering about the process on weaving between the beads on a practice plate . i'm having trouble with the lines and making the weave look correct . how can I properly perform and master the weave between the bead weld .

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babane

02-23-2006 15:18:12

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HELLO FRIEND in reply to titus loyd, 02-14-2006 06:55:52

please i want to know more about welding and fabrication.i mean the basic. i will be very greatfull if u will send me any of hand out on wlding and fabrication to my mail box . thanks

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babane

02-23-2006 15:13:46

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HELLO FRIEND in reply to titus loyd, 02-14-2006 06:55:52

please i want to know more about welding and fabrication.i mean the basic.

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Keith Libby

10-24-2005 13:15:58

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

I would like to learn how to weld in order to fix my truck and other metal materials. My girlfriend's father has an ancient welder and i would like to know how to use it.. as would he. Please give me some advice. Thank you

Keith

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gary sullivan

03-19-2006 15:24:33

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to Keith Libby, 10-24-2005 13:15:58

recently bought arc welder wanting advice on how leard to weld so im capable to do things such as repairs to trailer and make things gary

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Sonu Wadhwa

08-08-2005 22:42:47

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

send the important welding technology information.

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micky

09-13-2005 02:15:42

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to Sonu Wadhwa , 08-08-2005 22:42:47

hi i am someone who is quite handy with his hands i would be grateful if someone could guide me step by step how to arc weld.
i would love to try my hand at welding for a hobbie not a career

thanx

micky

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vicenre

03-04-2005 13:23:38

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

is this free

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monsterminiman

03-22-2005 19:07:38

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to vicenre, 03-04-2005 13:23:38

I would like to start a very serious project. I would like to take a classic mini cooper and put a 3.8L V6 and a high performance rear end and transmission. A standard classic mini unibody frame is only bulit for a 1200cc engine and putting an engine that is four times bigger the frame will not be able to support it so i would like to buy a welder and take some classes on welding to put a custom roll bar cage in it what"s your advice on what type of welder I should buy and where I can get one.

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alexander bendfeld

02-28-2005 08:24:48

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

l'm trying to learn how to weld as and earning and need some advice on how to do and excellent bead and l would like some advice on mig and tig welding if anyone can help me l would appriciate it thank you

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the fury

09-01-2004 13:59:49

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

advice for welding aluminum compaired to steel

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joe

05-26-2004 20:23:19

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

how do i weld with an electric welder with no gas.. how can i make the welds look better and make them stronger with out using so much wire so it wont bulge up

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kevin

08-16-2004 08:23:47

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Re: Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to joe, 05-26-2004 20:23:19

information on welding

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Bob

07-10-2001 08:23:38

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

I cast my vote with D.O.Bob (I dont think he is so dumb). I looked at all the discount places, got prices, checked ebay, went to my local welding shop and they sold me a Hobart 135 with gas and a good helmet, the correct lens for me, and 2 10 lbs spools of wire for under 500. No one came close to that when you added it all up and you would go them for the gas anyway. If you are welding inside use the gas, outside in wind use flux core wire. Lays a bead even an novice can be proud of. If you do go with ARC, be sure you get ac/dc. For all the light stuff you need the DC. AC will blow holes and frustrate you. No fun in that. AC is for the pros and or the big stuff. Gas tanks are great but welding the light stuff can be trickier than with the MIG. The 135 is a great one to start on. My 2 cents. Bob

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DumOLeBob

07-10-2001 08:02:57

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

If it's just for fun - go to your local welding supply shop & let them set you up with a MIG welding outfit (I like my Hobart Handler 135). Sure, I'll cost a tad more, but the advise they should give you will be worth the few extra $.

Get a couple of good welding books, videos, etc & start playing around. Take an evening course from adult education. Make connections with other nonpro welders.

Your now going to be welding ships or boilers so relax & enjoy. Sure, you'll probably take a time to get "gog", but for basic hobby welding it just isn't that hard to learn.

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Dean

07-10-2001 05:03:54

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

When I learned how to weld more than 40 years ago (yes, they had welding gear back then!) they guy I learned from said something that turned out to be very true..."I can show you how to weld in 15 minutes, it will take you 10 years to get good at it".

Get a stick welder, read the book, and then practice, practice, practice!

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hay

07-10-2001 04:47:41

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

i bought a century wire welder and it does fairly good for small light work (16 gauge up to 1/4").any bigger work and you would need a big 220 volt machine like a lincoln buzz box or similiar.also i bought a HAYNES welding manual.if you still have questions, then go to the local welding shop and ask the pros for help. might have to pay them for info or instructions, but it would be worth it to learn to do the job right.

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Mike Christian

07-09-2001 20:27:19

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

hey there, I am a hobby welder, and I have a Hobart Handler 135 110 volt Mig welder, I got it off ebay brand new for about $435. I love it, one of the best tools I ever bought. Mike

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Kurt

07-09-2001 20:05:47

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

See this link for more information on-line:
http://www.liquidarc.com.au/wch/index.html

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Mark Kw

07-09-2001 19:17:52

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

Start with a good book, Modern Welding ISBN #0-87006-668-4 for about $35 is a smart investment. Next, try to take a night class at trade school if one is available (most times in early fall these are held). If there's a welding or machine shop in your area, stop in and ask if you can trade off some work time for some welding lessons.

Personally, I'd suggest looking at the gas/gasless Century machine. These run around $450 but weld beautiful and can be used with both flux core and solid wire (gas shielded). You can purchase a small gas tank relatively cheap so there's no monthly rent/lease to pay. I think the Century comes with a gas regulator but if not, a Generico brand one can be had for around $45.

Campbell Hausfeld also has about the same machine as the Century for around the same price too. These are also fine for light work. Whatever one you choose, shop around, check prices and watch for sales.

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Franz

07-09-2001 19:16:35

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

That question's kinda like how do you get to Carnagee Hall. Answer's the same, practice, practice and more practice. First thing ya do is learn to listen real good, then you go find an oldfart welder who will teach you, and practice.
I started out 40 years ago with a torch, two years later I got my first buzz box. Today I own 4 torches, a plazma cutter, 4 Lincoln Rotary DC machines, 1 MIG, 3 Heliarc machines, and am still learning. If you can't find somebody to teach you, go look up your local votech or whatever they call trade school in your part of the world, and take a course in basic welding, then decide on what machine you want to start with. Bad welds only do 2 things, get people hurt or DEAD.

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Sbogusta

07-09-2001 18:23:15

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Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-09-2001 16:49:17

I would suggest getting a Lincoln 110 volt MIG welder. It can opperate with a gassless wire, meaning you do not have to lease argon/co2 tanks and regulators. Although it's not a top of the line 1000 dollar machine it will be perfect to learn how to run a bead. You can weld pretty thin material as well as some thicker stuff like 3/8 with multiple passes. For messing around with a tractor and making tools it's ideal. And at around 350 bucks at the Home Depot you can't go wrong.

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Ken

02-17-2004 14:30:58

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Re: Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to Sbogusta, 07-09-2001 18:23:15

I am a begginer welder and I would like to know how to make a good solid welded bead.

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tomatolord

07-10-2001 06:37:54

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Re: Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to Sbogusta, 07-09-2001 18:23:15

Thanks!

I was planning on taking a course at the tech school at night. The problem I was having was gas or buzz to start to learn with.

I figure I will maybe enventually learn them all, but like you all said, practice is everything. I dont think I will become and expert welder in ALL lines of welding. But if I narrow my focus and apply myself to only 1 type then I should do ok.

As I said I mostly want to do yard art and small stuff nothing big, where if it breaks things or people could get hurt (like trailers and stuff)

Thanks!

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Franz

07-11-2001 22:53:36

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Re: Re: Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-10-2001 06:37:54

I gotta go along with just about everything Mike Cline says, except learnin to run bare rod on an electric machine, that could turn a young fellow off quick.
Nice thing about learnin with gas first, you develope skill for dealing with the molten weld puddle, and that carrys over into stick welding, making it a little easier to learn stick.
The biggest problem I see with most fellows starting out, CHEAP EQUIPMENT. There seems to be a mindset that says a cheap machine from some mailorder place will save money. My first machine was a Lincoln, 225 amp buzz box, 40 years old now, and still running. I bought it at a welding supplier, and it cost me 4 weeks wages, and I'll tell you to this day, it was the best money I ever spent on welding. Along with that machine came more hours of good advice and counsel than I can count, a couple good friends, several leads on deals I could profit from, and information that kept me from killing myself more than once. You can't make a better investment than a good welding supplier. The kid at Wallyworld can't help you when the machine don't burn rod.
For what you're trying to do now, get a good quality new torch, and learn to weld, preferably without setting yourself or anything else on fire.
I just finished building a yellow bellied bug eyed ring necked groundpecker for the wife's gardens, from an old shovel and sickle bar guard, using a stick, MIG, Plazma, and anvil & hammer. Truth is I could have built it all with a torch, but I own the machines, and each of them has benefits others don't. Just remember, it ain't welded if it won't survive 3 falls to the floor without breaking.

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Mike Cline

07-11-2001 15:16:26

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Re: Re: Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-10-2001 06:37:54

I've been teaching welding for many years at the local high school. Generally, oxy-acetylene is first to be discussed and demonstrated. Follow that with a/c d/c(bare electrode then with flux) then on to MIG and then TIG. The problem with having bottles around the house-shop area is the possibilities of leaking explosive gases. I agree with Dean, get a cracker box, some 6013 and 6011 and weld. If you can get to a Vo-Tech all the better, but usually they will have the latest and best technology, which you might not want to venture into that much capital investment. Best of Luck. If you need anything let me know. Mike Cline Liberal, KS

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Al in PA

07-10-2001 19:18:11

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Re: Re: Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-10-2001 06:37:54

Twenty five years ago, I realized that I had a great education, but I had no practical skills. So, I took just about every course that the Vo-tech school offered in their adult education classes in the evenings. You should find that they will teach you the basics in both gas and arc welding (probably mig and tig also). By the end of the course, you will know which path is best suited to the work you want to do. Just soak up all the information they have to offer.

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bill b va

07-10-2001 18:43:30

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Re: Re: Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to tomatolord, 07-10-2001 06:37:54

if possible take the welding course before you decide .from what you said you want to do i think the oxy/acetelene torch would be your best bet . true it is slower but there are other benefits from having a welding torch . you can use it to heat treat those tools you want make .also use it to heat metal for bending and shaping . there are some things that are better brazed or braze welded than regular welding and dont forget all the things that can be heated that the propane torch wont handle bill b va

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bill b va

07-11-2001 04:08:45

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Re: Re: Re: Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to bill b va, 07-10-2001 18:43:30

in my post above ....i forgot to mention one important benifit of a torch and that is the cutting head . to be able to cut and shape steel parts has its place . i have rough cut and ground parts that people though were made in a machine shop . i took night welding classes 30 years ago and still have my text book modern welding which i would highly recommend for any one intrested in welding .the classes i took included stick, mig, tig and oxy/acetelene welding . besides my torch i have 200 amp portable welder and a 225 amp. buzz box . bill b va

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phil shinn

04-18-2004 17:26:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: advice on learning how to weld in reply to bill b va, 07-11-2001 04:08:45

Could somebody explain to me what or how to use the ac and the dc plus and dc minus on the buz box. I am not sure when or how they are used.

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