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Cost of Black Beauty

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DRL

11-10-2007 19:14:47




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Has the cost of black beauty slag for sandblasting skyrocketed in your area? Bought some a few months back for eight bucks a bag. Last week it was almost thirteen bucks a bag. Today had to get some more and it was almost eighteen bucks a bag. All it is is coal slag. Of course diesel is the leftovers of gasoline and it is more expensive than gas. I'm going to have to get a larger tank for electrolysis. Only sandblasted the pieces I couldn't get in my tank and still cost a fortune.

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Wardner

11-11-2007 11:05:24




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 Re: Cost of Black Beauty in reply to DRL, 11-10-2007 19:14:47  
Coal slag products are usually conveyed from the nearby power plant via pipes and high velocity water flows. Before screening and grading, the slag is stockpiled outside. Consequently, the slag has to be dried. The rising cost of energy is affecting the cost of Black Beauty. Shipping fuel surcharges are also having an effect.

The offsite retail markup on Black Beauty has always been rediculous. If you are near a coal fired electric generating plant, call the utility plant and ask them who handles their slag.

Reed Minerals, the maker of BB, has eighteen plants located in the eastern half of the country. There are other outfits, larger and smaller, that process slag. Calgon (?) is one but do a search on "coal slag". I used to buy directly from Reed Minerals near Concord, NH for considerable savings. Probably more than 60%. I was buying bulk (not bagged) for even more savings. All you need is a dump truck or tank on a trailer. If all you want is a bag or two now and then, forget trying to save money as a retail buyer. In that case, make your own sand by drying any granular material on your driveway.

Punch below for a map of BB mfg sites.

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johns48jdb

11-10-2007 20:21:29




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 Re: Cost of Black Beauty in reply to DRL, 11-10-2007 19:14:47  
i made a box that was 12 x 8 x 4 feet high and put a 4 x4 door in it. it does have a roof so i put it in under a side shed and did all my sandblasting in it. sand blasting anything is real dangerous to your health to start with. you must use the correct gear and protection for you lungs is upmost. to sift the sand i took a 5 gal bucket lid and cut it into the shape of a donut and using sheet metal screws i put a piece of screen wire over it. i then put a fan on a five gallon bucket and turned it where it would blow through the sand as i sifted it. that got rid of the stuff that was to fine to use. i had a buddy give me an electic box that vibrated and i put it in a plastic bag and would set it down on the screen. that kept the sand flowing through the screen. i set the donut on another five gallon bucket to catch the sifted sand in. i made a box to sand blast out of and used a piece of plexiglas as a window to look through. i found that covering it with san wrap out of the wifes kitchen made the plexiglas last forever wthout frosting over. i put a 2 foot high chimley on it and tied a shop vac to that. the first hose went into a fivd gallon bucket stufed with burlap and then on thrugh the oterside with another hose to go to the shop vac. took some doings but it worked real good for smal parts. using a set of gloves bought at ww grainger i cut doughnuts out of wood and used that to secure the gloves to the box. the bos was 2 x 2 x 4 foot with a sloping side cut into it on one side to mount the see through window in. i put it on a set of 2 x4 legs so you could stand up or sit on a bar stool and sand blast with it. a light inside proved helpful too. i put a switch on top to control the light inside and the vaccum cleaner fro one spot. a simple hold in one end made a place to run the hoses through. using dry sand from just a scoop full of sand from the local hardware store worked for me and worked weel. i actually put two air compressors one on top of the other to feed one tank. check valves kept the two compressors from fighting each other. i had set the pressure regulators a few pounds apart so that both of the motors didn"t kick on at once. sorry for long post.

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1030 brian

11-10-2007 19:29:45




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 Re: Cost of Black Beauty in reply to DRL, 11-10-2007 19:14:47  
Havent bought any since July , paid 8.00 for a 100# bag. Have you tried reclaiming it? Sandblast on a paved surface and sweep it up and screen it or use a tarp under your area. Either way you can save a lot of it after each use. Good luck! -Brian



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DRL

11-10-2007 19:38:55




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 Re: Cost of Black Beauty in reply to 1030 brian, 11-10-2007 19:29:45  
That's what I did toward the end. Scooped up all I could and sifted it out. At that price, is is black gold.



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