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john in la

11-10-2007 18:05:35




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Explain how Fluorescent Shop Lights work.

I have 2- 4 ft lights in my shed. Both have 2 lamps in each fixture. First one set went out and now the other. I bought 4 new bulbs and put them in. Now only 1 of the 4 lights comes on.

I thought if one bulb was burnt out neither would work.
I only paid $9 for the fixtures. Kind of figure if it is not something simple new fixtures may be in order.

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jimlll

11-11-2007 19:50:05




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
Good to see you post again, I,m in BR



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john in la

11-11-2007 19:30:26




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
Thanks for the help guys.

I took one of the lights apart and found they had a 1 bulb ballast in each end of the light. I decided I would try upgrade my light rather than buy another cheap light.

I went to Home Depot and found the ballast for my light to be $4.99 each. Figured this would last about as long as the original so I bought a better one. The one I got comes on at 0° rather than the normal 50 or 60° of the original. It is also a black box that mounts in the top of the light rather than the ends. This one ballast will handle both of my T8 40 watt bulbs. Even came with all new wires. Cost me $22.00
So now I only have the medal frame and the bulb connections from the original light. New ballast; wires; and bulbs. Hopefully this will last a while.

I only bought one ballast to make sure it would work in my frames. Now that I know it will I am going to upgrade all my shop lights with this new ballast.

Thanks again for the help.
John

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RayP(MI)

11-11-2007 16:16:16




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
I have gone through more of those cheap shoplites than I want to talk about. In short, they"re junk! Need to buy a better grade of light, and no, I don"t know where or what brands.



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Gary from Muleshoe

11-11-2007 17:04:56




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to RayP(MI), 11-11-2007 16:16:16  
A fluorescent light fixture no matter the cost consist of bulbs, ballast and wiring, so if you upgrade any or all of these three things you upgrade the light fixture. T8s are better than T12s and they use less energy.



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Gary from Muleshoe

11-11-2007 13:47:33




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
John

This is a very simple fix, most likely the ballast has went bad for those two bulbs. Either the bad ballast will have a thick substance leaking from it or it will be extremely hot after it has been on a while. Just swap the ballast out with a new one. I do agree they don't like cold weather but they will work just take a bit to warm them up. Swapping the ballast is easy you have 8 wires 1 black, 1 white, 2 yellow, 2 blue, 2 red. Turn off the power, snit the all the wires off up close to the ballast, you cut then shorter as you install the new one. Using blue wire nuts connect the new ballast. Cutting the wire is much easier than trying to reconnect then to each bulb socket. I hope this helps.

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Ted in NE OH

11-11-2007 12:04:46




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
Standard Florescent dont like cold weather many won't start below 50 deg F. Solution is to but high output (HO) florescent fixtures. I just bought one 8 footer at Lowes for $55.00, bulbs are $6.95 ea but they will start at -20 F



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KEB

11-11-2007 06:41:40




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
A lot of those cheapie shop lights have a separate ballast for each lamp, with the ballast in the end cap itself. They also tend to have poor connections to the flourescent tubes themselves. Sometimes if you push the end caps towards the center they'll make contact.

Plus, they seem to eat tubes. My last house had a bunch of those el-cheapo ones, and I was constantly replacing tubes. I also had one of the old style heavy metal fixtures with a good heavy ballast, and tubes in it lasted for years & years. We've been in this house almost three years, and I have yet to replace a tube in the garage.

Solution: go buy good quality fixtures, and if you live in an area where the temperature in the shed can get below freezing, ones with low-temperature ballasts.

Keith

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wilsonfire

11-10-2007 20:34:09




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
John I fought with those very same Home depot lights for months. Throw 'em away save the bulbs and go back to The Depot and buy the "cold weather" florescent fixtures. They work MUCH better (High quality ballast/starter) and will last. Mine work even below freezing too.



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johns48jdb

11-10-2007 20:25:02




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
halogen lights produce a lot of heat and are dangerous if not used correctly. i expect they will burn alot more electricity than shop lights will.



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Charles (in GA)

11-10-2007 20:16:09




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
Flo lights need to have the ballast well grounded. It doesn't seem right, but they won't work if the ground is poor. Make sure you have a good ground back to the panelboard and to your earth ground, and scrape the paint off at the ground screw inside the light. Also make sure the ballast is well grounded to the housing of the light with a clean ground.

I read this on a troubleshooting tear off sheet next to the replacement ballast at Home Depot. Didn't believe it but did clean up the grounds and the light started working.

Charles

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Pooh Bear

11-10-2007 18:24:27




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to Terry Ream, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  

john in la said: (quoted from post at 21:05:35 11/10/07) Explain how Fluorescent Shop Lights work.



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Dale B

11-10-2007 18:13:51




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
Are the lite assemblies "Lights of America " brand ? These are Chinese junk. They have electronic ballasts that seldom last any length of time. Pull the reflecter off , and look inside . if there is no actual ballast transformer , thats the story..... ...



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molinebob

11-10-2007 18:09:31




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 Re: Fluorescent Shop Light in reply to john in la, 11-10-2007 18:05:35  
There is a ceramic piece in there that likes to go bad, I had the same thing happen when it was cold out and turned them on and it took a while and finnally it got to the point where they would not come on, just threw them in the garbage nd went and bought some halogen shop lights and and mounted on the ceiling, talk about a difference, I think it is the only way to go.



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