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poogie

11-04-2007 16:50:19




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I always wanted a GOOD pocket knife. My best is a German handmade Boker Tree Brand which I am afraid I will lose so leave it at home. I have always bought Schrades and lost them. I have a Case which I abuse and have an old Ka-Bar which has was given to me with a lot of wear. Today I looked at Gerber and Buck but both were made in----- --- Yep! you guessed it!!!! CHINA! I always thought Buck was absolutely the best factory made. I guess I will always wonder what owning a GOOD knife is like. anyway. I guess a poor sharp knive is better than a dull good knife is.

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Don-Wi

11-09-2007 00:59:29




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
I've got a folding utility knife. The first one I got at Ace for $10. Then I bought one for my fiance.

I saw them at harbor freight too, and bought one for my dad and another for me becasue I misplace my other one from time to time. I think I finally planted it in a field somewhere last weekend- just can't seem to find it anywhere.

A sharp blade is always at hand. Turn it once and then toss it & change it. I have a 100 pk. of Stanley utility blades that I have on my tool box at work. Lasted me 3-4 years so far. Might use them up in another 8-10 months.

If you do get one from harbor freight, get the more expensive version of the larger folding utility knife. The cheaper one is junk. The more expensive one ($1 more) is just like my 1st one from Ace- forget who made it as I lost it, but it's made completely out of aluminum and stainless. They even had the same S cast (or forged)into the part that holds the blade.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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dave guest

11-07-2007 20:10:51




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
Kissin' cranes, Bokers, Case, Gerber, Uncle Henry, Kabar, all good. Stainless, never had one any good. Looked nice though. I cut wires, wood, nails, rubber anything you need to do.



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dave guest

11-07-2007 20:10:41




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
Kissin' cranes, Bokers, Case, Gerber, Uncle Henry, Kabar, all good. Stainless, never had one any good. Looked nice though. I cut wires, wood, nails, rubber anything you need to do.



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Ken in Arkansas

11-07-2007 12:11:58




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
Some Buck knives are still made in USA; most of the "tactical" knives are made in Asia while their traditional products are mostly made in USA.



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city farmer

11-06-2007 14:51:14




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
I LIKE CASE KNIVES HAVE SOLD COLLECTED AND GIVEN THEM AWAY SENCE THE 70S ONE OF THE BEST SELLING CASE KNIVES I KNOW OF IS THE YELLOW HANDLE CARBON STEEL TRAPERS AND MINITRAPER PRICED BETWEEN 25 30 $ I HAVE ALL KINDS OF KNIVES OUT OF ALL KINDS OF STEEL I JUST PREFER CASE ALSO LIKE OLDER BUCKS KERSHAW BENCHMADE SCHARDE HAVE A LOT OF NICE CUSTOM MADE ONES KNIVES ARE LIKE TRACTORS MOST PEOPLE LIKE A CERTIAN LOOK AND FEEL AS FAR AS SHARPING KNIVES THERE IS ABOOK CALL THE RAZORS EDGE GOOD BOOK FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO SHARPEN PROPERLY ALSO THE BEST THING TO KEEP AN EDGE THAT I CARRY EVERY WHERE IS THE FILIMENT OUT OF A CERTIAN KIND OF LIGHT BULB I MAKE MY OWN HANDLE FOR THEM WHEN I FIND THEM DON'T REMEMBER WHAT KIND OF BULB THIS IS CALLED BUT A GREAT HONING STICK IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CASE KNIVES THERE ARE MANY PLACES ON THE WEB TO GET GREAT DEALS ONE OF THE NICEST THINGS TO GIVE A RESPONSIBLE KID IS A GOOD POCKET KNIVE THAT HE CAN CARRY JUST NOT TO SCHOOL

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rockyhawaii

11-06-2007 14:08:24




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
I buy the cheap pocket knives with serrated blades for $5 at the swap meet. They work as well as anything else and if I lose one, who cares?



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kito169

11-05-2007 20:12:21




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
I have a Puma DEERHUNTER that I bought in 1979. I only buy knives made with Solingen, West German steel. I just bought a Puma stockman last week. I also have a Bowie knife made from this steel that traded for in 1974. In my opinion these are the best. I only sharpen with Arkansas stones, honing oil and strop on leather. I bought a couple of Samari swords while I was in Viet Nam in 70. Always thought they were junk. A couple of years ago I got to looking at them and discovered the blades are Damascus steel. I don't know if they are worth anything or not.

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Bernoulli/OR

11-06-2007 23:17:45




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to kito169, 11-05-2007 20:12:21  
Your swords may be junk (I hope not), but Samurai swords are acknowledged to have some of the best knife/sword steel ever made. They are made by master craftsmen who pound and fold the steel repeatedly in a process similar to Damascus. Not all the swords make it through the process. The real deal is worth many thousands of dollars. I was in Tokyo several years ago and saw a sashimi knife made by the same process that was over $2000 then. Each Japanese chef has to have two knives. At the end of the work day he sharpens then rests (for 24 hours) the knife he uses each day.

As I noted on an earlier post, I carry a Kershaw 1560 which is an assisted opening knife. It has a torsion bar that opens the blade once you get it started. I find that one hand operation is very handy for me. There are knives made out of better material (Benchmade for one) but the Kershaw fits my hand. Comfort is as important as the steel you choose in my opinion.

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Bernoulli/OR

11-05-2007 18:25:46




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
There are plenty of good pocket knives available. you can check out Link and learn lots about them. Most of the time I carry a Leatherman Wave and a Kershaw 1560. If you can't sharpen 440C or 440A - learn how to sharpen.



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Pycoed

11-05-2007 14:23:02




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to doug in illinois, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
I got sick of losing expensive knives so I bought the cheapest "good" knife I could find.
I try never to buy anything French 'cos they have weird design ideas, but the Opinel knives are superb. They retail for about 5GBP (10$) have a carbon steel blade that both takes & holds an edge & a really simple locking mechanism. 20 years later I've still got mine!

By the looks of them they wouldn't stand hacking, but if you want a knife for cutting only they're superb. Do you get these over the pond ? see Link

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Ken in Arkansas

11-05-2007 14:01:40




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
Case knives are still made in USA. (Bradford, PA) The ones with fancy handles get expensive, but they also have work knives such as the Sodbuster which are reasonable.

There are two companies which make "official" Swiss Army knives - Wenger or Victorianox. Both are good knives.



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Tim B from MA

11-06-2007 10:10:29




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to Ken in Arkansas, 11-05-2007 14:01:40  
I got my first Swiss Army knife, a Wengner, in the late 80's, and it lasted for 10 years until it fell apart. I replaced it with a Vitronix and I don't think it lasted a whole year.

Between my boys and I, we have had a number of both brands ...

I think the Wegners are much better, though the quality is not quite what it was for that first one my wife bought me in the 80s.



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Harvey3

11-05-2007 13:04:46




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  

Swiss Army



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KIP in MX

11-05-2007 09:26:56




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
1974 buck 303 pocket knife (back when they still had brass plates between the blades) is always in my pocket and a Victoinox Champion I bought in Johannesburg in 1980 is usually on my belt. Keep a Leatherman in my office.



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Vern-MI

11-05-2007 08:47:23




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
Kershaw



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Vern-MI

11-05-2007 08:50:07




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to Vern-MI, 11-05-2007 08:47:23  
Lower cost Case..



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hayray

11-05-2007 04:30:17




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
I got sick and tired of buying expensive knifes and loosing them or watch them fall apart and have the locking mechanisms malfunction just like the cheap ones. I make my own but loose them in about a year, so I buy the cheapest thing out there. All the cheap stuff now is made with stainless and stainless by its nature is a tool steel with good qualities, if you know how to sharpen a knife good then it don't matter what you get.

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MarlinM51

11-05-2007 04:14:27




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
Asia has a history of very good metalworking skills (ie samurai swords). Does the origin of the product necessarily mean poor quality? Do the individual companies have standards of quality and materials that continue regardless of the part of the world that provides the labor? Just curious.
Marlin



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jokers

11-05-2007 09:43:27




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to MarlinM51, 11-05-2007 04:14:27  
As a matter of principle I will not buy any product made in Asia if I have a choice. It may already be too late but I think that it`s time that the rest of America wakes up and takes back or retains what we can. I doubt the full takeover of our country will happen in my lifetime but that doesn`t make it ok for it to happen to my child or grandchildren.

IMO, people who buy Asian products are penny wise and pound foolish.

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Crem

11-05-2007 16:56:19




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to jokers, 11-05-2007 09:43:27  
Jokers, I agree with you 100%. I do believe though that it is already too late and we will end up being on the low end.



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msb

11-04-2007 20:08:13




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
Case knife man here, but they are hard to find locally anymore. Have an Old Timer now. It doesn't hold an adge like a Case. I like the stockman models with sheepsfoot and spey blades



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FarmallJoe

11-04-2007 18:22:46




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
I've got a kershaw its completly made in USA. I snapped the point off sent it back got a BRAND new one back in FOUR days!!!

real sharp too. I have a leatherman that you wont find me without also, great AMERICAN made knife!!!

CRKT is also a good knife, I had one but I lost it, probly the best 50$$ knife!!

Carbon steel is the way to go, yea it rusts faster but it holds a hell of an edge, all my arbon blades are RAZOR sharp. I can actually watch the hairs on my arms fly off, Thats real Sharp

I sharpen with "yellow stone" on a piece of leather, its like 20 bucks for a block of thus stuff and you scrap it off on to the leather and sharpen it, great for knives ans chissles (find it at woodcraft/online)

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Superhank

11-06-2007 12:05:53




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to FarmallJoe, 11-04-2007 18:22:46  
Where did you send your kershaw. I got the same issue. I didn't abuse the knife but the tip did break when I used it. Got an address?



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FarmallJoe

11-06-2007 13:02:50




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to Superhank, 11-06-2007 12:05:53  
Kai USA ltd., Kershaw Knives
WARRANTY DEPARTMENT
18600 SW Teton Avenue
Tualatin, OR 97062

but the knife in a small box and send a little note on what you want done.



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suptscottyb

11-04-2007 18:06:47




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
A good knife is any one that you'll keep sharp and carry all the time. My preference is towards 440 stainless on a slim knife that is easy to carry in my pocket, where I don't seem to lose them. Current knife is all an stainless buck - $25.



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36 coupe

11-05-2007 02:40:44




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to suptscottyb, 11-04-2007 18:06:47  
440 stainless makes a lousy knife blade.Im still looking for a carbon steel liner lock pocket knife.I gave my Schrade to my son.Taylor cutlery bought the Schrade name only.Stainless is pretty but it wont hold an edge.It amazes me that stainless has taken over the the knife business.



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hayray

11-05-2007 04:35:33




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to 36 coupe, 11-05-2007 02:40:44  
that ain't true. If that is the case why does Gerber and Leatherman use stainless and surgical equipment is also stainless. I think that stainless may be harder to sharpen correctly because it is harder then some of the real cheap carbon blades like Case and Old Timers. Guys like those junky knives because you can grind them on the nearest field stone, but most end up dull as all get out.



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36 coupe

11-06-2007 06:40:22




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to hayray, 11-05-2007 04:35:33  
Sugical equipment has be super clean.Frosts does have a good stainless knife steel.I have cut up a lot of beef and I stick with carbon steel.You have to be able to sharpen a knife often while cutting a beef up.I do have two good stainless knives but they are rare .I have had a sharpening shop since 1970 and know a good blade.I do suspect there is a lot of fake 440 stainless being sold.Most of the junk knives on the market are stainless.Good old time carbon steel knife brands are Green River,Russel, Goodell,Foster Bros,I Wilson,Old Hickory.Pocket knives seem to be made for collectors now, they shine them up but never use them.Some well known Brands are tempered far too hard.Heters sold some good carbon steel knives but their stainless blades were crap.I broke one cutting a cabbage.As for the Leatherman type tools I have 3 that I got as gifts.They are gadgets at best.The leather man is good quality but the other 2 are stainless junk.

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molinebob

11-04-2007 17:30:16




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
I have used leatherman for about 15 years now, I think I buy a new one evrey 7-8 years, they are made in the good old U.S. of A., and they have a lifetime warranty on them also. Good luck on your quest.



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charles(mo)

11-04-2007 17:12:05




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
You can get a new Old Timer(schrade) from wal mart but they are made in china or japan.(I forgot which) Up until a few years ago they were made in the U.S.A. , but they closed down and about a year later they reopened over seas.

If you want a good carry knife, look at a Case jr. Sodbuster. The junior is a good size to carry and they hold up very well to years of service. They don't cost much either, usually around $23. They come in black or yellow handles.

Case is made in the U.S.A.

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Goose

11-04-2007 17:09:36




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
Winchester makes good pocket knives. They're usually available at Wallyworld and most farm stores.

I also have an M5 bayonet from an M1 military rifle in my toolbox. That sucker's indestructable. I've even cut tin with it by pounding on the back side of the blade with a hammer. Nothing has ever even dulled it.



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whitmoyer

11-04-2007 17:04:51




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
Kind of partial to the real swiss army myself,
The one with 2 blades, screw drivers and a leather awl,don"t need sissors or a laser level built in.



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IH2444

11-05-2007 09:12:35




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to whitmoyer, 11-04-2007 17:04:51  
Yep a genuine Swiss Army knife.
I have carried the same one for about 20 years now.
Mine does not have the optional Air conditioning blade though.



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Blue3992 (N Illinois)

11-04-2007 16:53:17




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 Re: Pocket Knives in reply to poogie, 11-04-2007 16:50:19  
I'm lost without my Gerber multitool, China or not.



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