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Combination Wrenches

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Vic Bunn---WA

10-31-2007 18:43:31




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Can anyone tell me where to find combination (box end/open end) wrenches between 2" & 3"? I found one for $349 but didn't buy it. Thanks!




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John in Ct

11-01-2007 13:31:05




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
I have been buying one at a time used ones( in like new condition) on Ebay. I only buy a top brand and know what they sell for new to base my bid on. Don't expect to get them for nothing ( but sometimes you will get a deal!!). I had a cheap set and you can see the difference.



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markiz41

11-01-2007 08:47:59




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
If what you found is a complete set of 17 wrenches (1/16 increment) and a known brand name - jump on it. Even for a 9 wrench set of 1/8 increment, in a brand name, the price is reasonable. I"m sure you know need, but just to speculate: 1)open end will save you money 2) if you plan to work on hydraulic lines, get the anglehead wrenches.



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Ken Crisman

11-01-2007 05:19:55




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
Keep watching ebay . I've bought some nice wrenches there . God bless, Ken



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T_Bone

11-01-2007 01:18:14




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
Hi Vic,

Well you can always make your own out of 3/8" flat bar or plate for about $5.25eh for steel at small quanity pricing. Scrap also will work. I just bought new 14ft x 4ft x 3/8" plate for $0.33/lb. (city dweller :))

Cut the size you need with a torch, jaws about 1/16" undersized then finish grind to correct size after the steel cools.

If the wrench is to be used alot under maximum stress then heat treament is desired.

To harden carbon steel first preheat the jaw and neck area too 1100�f (dull red) and let free air cool slowly. This removes mfg stress.

Next reheat the same areas to a dull red then quench in oil until cool. Used motor oil works well as it adds a small amount of acids at the same time. This method also surface hardens the steel.

Reheat the steel area again too 500�f, (lead (wheel weights?) melts at about 500�) then quench in oil until cool. This quench adds temper (return flex) to the steel.

At a minimum, temper the steel.

Your done!

In the archive you'll also find a thread where I described how to make large sockets if your interested.

T_Bone

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Kansas Cockshutt

11-01-2007 01:14:29




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
Just my $.02
I have them all in my box, Matco, Mac, Snap-on, Craftsman but the best ones are Martin. They are the ugliest looking but have never had one spread and they take a beating. Can get any size under the sun from them.



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Kansas Cockshutt

11-01-2007 01:20:42




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Kansas Cockshutt, 11-01-2007 01:14:29  
link:

http://www.martintoolandforge.com/



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Larry in Mo

10-31-2007 21:19:59




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
Found a set of Snap-on 15/16-1 1/2 in a pawn shop a few yrs ago for $170. Big one at that time was $96. Stopped to look at some guitar amps and bought Snap-on. Figure that one out. LE



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jack12345

10-31-2007 21:04:16




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
Check out the second hand shops before purchasing new ones.Might get good used brand name for good price.



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the tractor vet

10-31-2007 20:51:44




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
Them BIG wrenches get a bit into one back pocket . And i know this how , buy bying the big MAC wrenches . Should have bought them way back but i was just working on cars . THe old Mac tool man tryed his darnwst to get me to buy the whole big master mechanic set way backas back then it came with everything in the book and back then the whole set cost just under 8 grad. HAd socketsets complet from 1/4 thru 1 inch and the long combo set from 1/4 thru 3 inch had the flex wrenches from 1/4 thru 2 inch box wrenches cresset wrenches from 4 inch thru 24 . It was the same set that i had when i worked for a construction company as that is what the old man bought to put in my company truck. And i did not think i would ever need it . Well over the years ya keep adding on and just fork out the big bucks and i have went way over that over the years and the last big wrench i bought i paid 279 for it. Just think when i check out at all the bargins there will be on tools when the old lady call in the auctioneer .

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TimV

10-31-2007 19:27:21




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
Harbor Freight has a "super jumbo" 4-piece set 2 1/8, 2 1/4, 2 3/8 and 2 1/2 for $64.99. Probably Northern Tool, Grizzly, Cummins, or your favorite Chi-com store has them as well. A local logger bought a full set of S-K wrenches from the local hardware store a couple of years ago from 3/8" to 3", but I didn't happen to see how much they cost. E-bay has lots of them, plus of course Snap-on and MAC, but make sure to be setting down before you ask the Snap-on dealer what they will run you!

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John S-B

11-01-2007 19:51:42




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to TimV, 10-31-2007 19:27:21  
I've had a set of Cummins wrenches and 3/4" drive socket set, had them for about 6 years and no problems at all. I don't use them much, mostly for taking off wheel weights and tires on the tractor, but not every day use. Perfectly fine if you just need them for occaisional use.



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T_Bone

11-01-2007 01:34:23




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to TimV, 10-31-2007 19:27:21  
Hi Tim,

A good way to tell if the wrech has quality steel is to go look at a good known name brand.

Hold two wrenchs, approx the same size by there ends then clang them together while paying close attention to the ring tone quality as well how long that tone lasts. Preform the test several times.

Now go pick up a cheapie wrench in the same sizes and repeat the test.

If they ring at a lower and longer tone then the steel is soft or not mixed corectly.

If they ring at a higher and shorter tone then there too hard or the steel was not mixed correctly when mfg'd.

I bought a set of 3/4 drive sockets, 2" to 3", breaker bar, ratchet that had a great ring tone to them for $50, in store special. Another (more expensive) in store set had a poor ring tone.

T_Bone

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msb

10-31-2007 19:17:35




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to Vic Bunn---WA, 10-31-2007 18:43:31  
Did you try Harbor freight?



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Wisconsin Cowman

10-31-2007 20:13:32




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 Re: Combination Wrenches in reply to msb, 10-31-2007 19:17:35  
If you don't use them every day then don't go out and buy Snap-on.



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