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doug in illinoi

10-27-2007 08:08:31




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It's time to replace all the smoke detectors in the house, and can't really find good reviews on them. The one in the kitchen would false signal way too easy, so took it clear out. Going to add one to the living room, it will need also not to false on cooking smoke. Any recommendations from personal experience? Thanks, DOUG




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1936

10-27-2007 17:38:41




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
The only good thing about kitchen smoke detectors is it will signal when the food is done. It does for the house next door.



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1936

10-27-2007 17:38:35




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
The only good thing about kitchen smoke detectors is it will signal when the food is done. It does for the house next door.



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Dusty MI

10-27-2007 17:21:12




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
Two coments. I use the ones that if one alarms they all do. For the reason that I put one in the shop if goes off so do the ones in the house.

We have a motor. Smoke detectors are a pain in RV's, just like ones in a kitchen. I found a smoke detctor that has a silence button that after being pushed, about 15 minutes goes back to detection mode. Works great.



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TyTX

10-27-2007 15:05:31




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
Good advice is to mix your detector types. False alarms in the kitchen are most often from ionized air detectors. Try a particulate detector or better yet a thermal detector.

There are different scenarios of fire. Slow burning fires create smoke but may fool an ionized detector. Fast fires create ionized particles early and lives can be saved with ionization detectors.

The kitchen and garage are both problem areas but thermal detectors give you a margin of detection that is reliable in those areas.

Don't forget to plan and practice exit methods and meeting places. Our daughter's room has a mini ball bat hanging on her bedpost. It may not be stylish but it will open a window in short order if the house is filling with smoke.

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MurrayE

10-27-2007 13:09:23




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
Re: information on smoke detectors. As a retired Fire Chief, all information posted in this thread, has been very accurate. When purchasing, (and as others have stated make great gifts and nicer gift if we install as part of the gift)if in Canada, they should have either CSA or ULC stamp of approval, if in U.S.A. it will have UL as the stamp of been approved by the proper authorities. There might be the odd time(as with any machine) that one might not preform properly. These have been on the market for probably 25 years and we have as the ordinary citizen have supported the SMOKE DETECTOR industry 100 percent. I retired over 11 years ago and I doubt very much if there was any home in the community where I had jurisidiction that was without smoke detectors. The one problem that was hard to control for the battery operated smoke detectors was change of batteries. All fire departments fully support the program. Cheers, Murray

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oldfarmtractor

10-27-2007 11:58:44




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
I like the ones made by Kidde. There should be a smoke detector in each bedroom and possibly one in a hallway that leads to the bedrooms or any sleeping location.

Never put one in the kitchen, you will get false readings until the thing is so greased up it won't work at all.

Don't put one in the garage or furnace room. Rooms just beyond them should be fine.

Never mount them within one foot of the joint that connects the ceiling to the wall. They need to breathe.

Also don't forget the CO detector. Our code puts them withing 4 feed of the floor and within 15 feet of any sleeping area.

Either of these are great Christmas gifts for your children, parents or anyone you care about. Mounting them would be a plus.

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Midwest redneck

10-27-2007 10:44:43




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
From personal experience. I built a home 7 years ago. Code requires the following, 1 detector in each bedroom, 1 in the hallway, and I think one in the furnace room. plus one on each floor, assuming that all bedrooms are upstairs. I forgot the kind I have, first alert maybe. I would not put a smoke detector in a kitchen because of burning food. I would put one in a living room with a wood burner or fireplace. I would also test all detectors with a match or burning paper to make sure they work right.

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the tractor vet

10-27-2007 08:52:40




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
And here the wife uses them as a cooking timer . She treats me like a god always serving me burnt offerings



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The REAL Hal/WA

10-28-2007 20:13:05




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to the tractor vet, 10-27-2007 08:52:40  
I love your humor! Thanks.



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Coloken

10-27-2007 08:43:42




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
What ever you buy, check then out. Couple of years ago I bought several...Burned a pot on the stove. They did not work. Me and fire cheif held burning paper etc under them with no result. I took them back to HD and made a point to tell the highest person I could find about it, but who knows if that bunch or others just as bad, is still out there.



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Red Dave

10-27-2007 08:13:33




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 Re: OT: Smoke detectors in reply to doug in illinois, 10-27-2007 08:08:31  
Generally, smoke detectors aren't reccomended to be installed in kitchens because of false alarms due to cooking. Any smoke detector that doesn't alarm "on cooking smoke" probably isn't working.



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