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MarkB_MI

10-20-2007 07:09:58




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Just when I thought I'd seen it all.

I have a Sears credit card that I occasionally use for tools, parts and such. So I get a bill this week for some lawn tractor parts I ordered. I throw away all the ad inserts and tear off the ad that Sears always insists on attaching to the return envelope. But it catches my eye, because it looks like a check. So I read it: "As a valued Sears Customer, you've been issued a Holiday Thank You worth up to $96.00. Redeem your certificate now to select your favorites for just the low amount shown for each plus shipping and handling." Elsewhere it says in big letters: "REDEEM YOUR THANK YOU CERTIFICATE NOW." and "Redeem For [sic] Your Thank You Before It Expires."

There are several gadgets shown on the ad, most of which you're unlikely to buy for yourself, but might be a suitable present for someone you don't really like. (They all come gift-wrapped.) Now a gullible person would think they can use the $96.00 "thank you certificate" to buy these Items. Of course not. But where's the Fine Print? I finally found the fine print INSIDE THE RETURN ENVELOPE FLAP! Not only are you not likely to read it, it's nowhere on the order form and you're going to send it back when you mail your check.

The Fine Print: "Your Thank You is a savings off the retail value of comparable items available elsewhere. Maximum value is based on selecting 4 each of the 3 highest valued items for the low amount shown and is not a credit to your account."

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Breeze(mid-GA)

10-24-2007 18:57:08




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
hey all, you have heard of "FAMILY DOLLAR- BILL'S DOLLAR-GENERAL DOLLAR" Well it should'nt be too long before you start seeing signs that say "SEARS DOLLAR STORE". I bought a set of 1/2" drive sockets last week and after i got to the shop i noticed that the sizes were wrong on all but two out of the bunch. i returned them and gladly bought a more expensive set from the snap-on truck this week. seems like sears is selling seconds and rejects these days. I'm through with them. seems they "saved" K-mart so they could get cheaper goods. JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH. Later, Breeze

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JML755

10-22-2007 11:12:22




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
Reading about the "scams" reminds me of 34 years ago when we "won" a free housecleaning at a Home & Garden Show. A Kirby vacuum cleaner guy shows up and cleans THE rug in our 1 BR rental flat, then goes into his spiel. After about an hour of me saying "no", I just about had to throw the guy out the door. Final straw was him calling us "dirty, filthy slobs" for not wanting to buy his vacuum.

Later that night, wife announces she really WANTS the vacuum. I called them up and had a different salesman come out to sign the deal. I just did NOT want to see that guy again. It was something like $200 or $300 back then, lot of money for a couple just starting out and I figured I was overpaying for a product you could buy at Sears for $40 or $50.
Funny thing is, we still have it and other than belts and a bag we wore out, it runs like a champ and I'd put it up against a lot of the newer models that are advertised as "best". Sometimes, you get what you pay for.

(A while ago, neighbor hinted about her son coming over and demonstrating a Rainbow vacuum he was selling. No, I didn't bite.)

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Jimmy King

10-21-2007 15:37:38




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
One of my son's friends told him about a window co that would pay you $100 to come out and demenstrate their windows so he called them one question was what kind of windows do you have he said Anderson and they hung up on him.



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Jimmy King

10-21-2007 15:37:31




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
One of my son's friends told him about a window co that would pay you $100 to come out and demenstrate their windows so he called them one question was what kind of windows do you have he said Anderson and they hung up on him.



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GeneMO

10-20-2007 20:37:32




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
I went through the exact same thought process a while back when I got my first Sears bill.

I bought about $150 worth of wrenches and they said I could get $17 off it I applied for a Sears credit card, so I think what the heck. Well after seeing their scam, just like you, I am going to cancel the darned thing.


Gene



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S. Crum

10-20-2007 19:27:01




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
I stuff all the credit card offers back into their postage paid return envelope and send them back. Costs them the return postage and most of them stop after the second time.



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GeneMO

10-20-2007 20:34:14




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to S. Crum, 10-20-2007 19:27:01  
I used to do that too. I even put strips of lead in some to make them heavy.

I think I put some horse manure in one once, but not sure anymore, that was in my younger days.


Gene



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ChrisJones

10-22-2007 13:52:34




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to GeneMO, 10-20-2007 20:34:14  
I thought about sending dirt back in one. Never did. Now I'd be afraid to since 9-11. It'd spill out and they'd evacuate the city thinking it was anthrax or something. I have sent all the junk back to them before, sometimes adding others junk mail too. But I quit wasting my time and just toss it now.



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1936

10-20-2007 16:35:21




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
Any crop. that ends up being owned by Kmart equates to open season on all who are looking for a free lunch. Ward's before they went under would have a poor sole call and try to sell something on the phone. I would let the person go to the end of the speal cause the person was having a big time problem just reading the script. I figured they needed practice with english so I let they go to the end.

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Goose

10-20-2007 11:45:44




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
There was a big flap in Nebraska this year because several service stations posted signs on the Interstate advertising gasoline for maybe 30 cents per gallon below the going price.

The catch was, they had 20 pumps and only one was set at that price, all the rest were at the going price. In other words, you had to check out every pump on the island to find the one that was set at that price.

Those guys got real unpopular in a hurry. The sad thing was, they tarnished the reputation of the entire state.

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Ken L.

10-20-2007 10:33:13




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
Another one to watch for at Sears is their, "as advertised signs". Most people see those signs and think that it was advertised at a lower than normal price. It's not, it's there normal price, they just advertised it at that price.



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Stan in Oly, WA

10-20-2007 10:05:00




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
Hi Mark,

What's especially outrageous about a scam like that is that most of us have come to accept it as business as usual. We continue to do business with companies we more or less expect to try to cheat us if we aren't vigilant at every step. Refusing to do business with Sears or Wal-Mart or Citi-Corp may give you the moral high ground, but you pay the price of losing whatever good deals you can find with those companies if you're willing to make your way through the minefield of their tricks and generally despicable business practices. And how much does the loss of your business hurt a mega-corporation, anyway? In the collective sense it should mean everything, but American consumers have made it clear that they'd buy goods directly from Pol Pot if the prices were better than Costco's. So taking your business away from Sears does about as much good as voting in an election in the Congo.

This summer I ran into what I think is one of the cleverest dirty tricks I've seen in a long time. A Seattle window company advertised that if a whole houseful of their windows didn't cut your heating bill by 40% this year they'd pay the difference. That means you should be able to figure out the payback on the cost of the windows by dividing it by 40% (and rising) of your heating bill, right? I think what it means is that they've added enough to the price of their windows (you'll pay more to get that 40% yearly heating cost savings---nobody else is claiming their windows are that good) that they don't lose money when pay the difference the first year---and only the first year. After that you're on your own. When the actual savings only come to 10 or 15%, are you going to scream that you were tricked? Probably not. You understand that there are just too many variables. Besides, unless you heat solely with wood, or with oil, or a natural gas furnace is your only gas appliance, how do you know what proportion of your energy bill is the heating part? But I might be wrong. Some things that are too good to be true could be true anyway, and some lunches might really be free.

All the best, Stan

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MarkB_MI

10-21-2007 05:04:53




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 10-20-2007 10:05:00  
Hi Stan,

Yes, it's pretty sad what big corporations have come to these days. There have always been a few bad apples, but most corporations used to put a lot of importance on their reputations. I used to put Sears in the latter category. But more often today, a company's reputation seems to be just one variable in a bean counter's equation: How many customers can we screw over before we p**s off so many people we start to lose money?

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JoeK(WI)

10-20-2007 09:16:24




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to MarkB_MI, 10-20-2007 07:09:58  
Yup,they're very helpful in prediscounting the price of the listed crap they're peddling in those promos.
Pet peeve of mine-example."This'item'is not available elswhere and has a value of(say)79.95.But it's yours for only 29.95+shipping and handling.
Now follow me here-If it's not available elsewhere and'they'(the only source) are sellin it for 29.95 howthehell is it WORTH 79.95?
In my book an item is worth what it costs unless theres competition in the sales of it.

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Stumpalump

10-20-2007 17:22:38




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 Re: Sears scam in reply to JoeK(WI), 10-20-2007 09:16:24  
I like how the credit card companys print junk mail offers on the back of the envelope your bill comes in. They also stuff it with more junk hoping you will see the junk and toss the bill. You toss it and forget to pay it and they nail you with late fees and intrest.



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