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OT: Microsoft office? what's best?

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redtom

10-17-2007 06:10:27




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I need to add Msoft office so that I'm compatible with the school for the kids to do homework. I'm kind of from the typewriter era so all this stuff is hard for me. I learned there is now a 2007 edition and various variations? on the upgrade for instance I'm looking at info for a Student and teacher edition. which one should I get? Is there a cheap one? any advice?




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Southern Ray

10-18-2007 06:44:40




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
I was introduced to WordPerfect and QuatroPro kicking and screaming back in '94. Have since embraced it. WordPerfect does things Word can't. Use Office and Excel here at work.



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deerhound

10-17-2007 19:06:13




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
Office 2007 Student and Home has Excel, Word , Powerpoint, and OneNote. If these programs are what you need this version has the advantage that you can legally install it on three different computers. This is a good feature. All other versions are only liscensed for 1 computer.



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MarkB_MI

10-17-2007 18:02:06




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
The different versions of Office include different applications, most of which your kids will never use. Find out what applications they will actually need; I think all versions include the basics: Word, Excel and Powerpoint.

Personally, I use OpenOffice.org at home on my Linux box, and MS Office at work. Open Office is fairly clunky, but it's totally adequate for your kid's schoolwork and can read and write the latest MS Office file formats. If your kid's school REQUIRES MS Office, then the school should provide it. It's absolutely ridiculous to expect the average person to spend hundreds of dollars on software for school when free alternatives exist.

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buickanddeere

10-17-2007 16:41:57




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
You won't be happy until you get rid of a windows machine and get a Mac or Apple. The virus's, spyware and trogon programs are getting worse.



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big fred

10-17-2007 12:32:04




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
I've seen reports that Office 2007 version of Excel has some math problems. It will sometimes give the solution of "100,000" when it should give "65536" due to the way it rounds internally. Kind of like the old Pentium problem, but different. Until it's fixed, I'll stick with Office 2003.



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Rod (NH)

10-17-2007 13:41:27




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to big fred, 10-17-2007 12:32:04  
Fix is out.



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Bob - MI

10-17-2007 11:45:41




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
Keeping current with what your kids will need for school will mean that you will need to get MS Office. Gates has a lock on most establishments and the last thing that you need is an excuse for your kids to be "incompatible" with what is going on at school.

The suggestion about college kids is right on. My daughter gets any Microsoft title for $10.00 after you buy a generic license copy for $25.00. The license is supposed to be renewed every year but darned if we aren't getting absent minded these days.

Office 2003 student/teacher edition has more capability than the 2007 version due to the new one dropping PowerPoint off the menu. Student 2003 is really difficult to find now that 2007 is out. I bought a copy of 2003 about 3 months ago and had to search on-line a bit. I think it was around $110.00 for the 3-machine set. By the way, there is no requirement for student/teacher verification so anyone can use it.

I have not used the 2007 version but my daughter says it's more difficult. Some of that comes from it being a new interface I'm sure. I am putting all software upgrades off as long as I can. That will probably be the last month of her senior year at college.

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Howard H.

10-17-2007 08:04:05




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  

If you happen to have any family members in college, have them check to make sure you are not already eligible for a free copy of Office at home.

Many higher ed institutions have Microsoft MCA agreements which cover home use for all students/faculty/staff.

My university has covered faculty and staff for several years, but just brought students' coverage online this past Oct 1.

Howard



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supergrumpy

10-17-2007 07:51:14




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
Office is pretty much a standard (for better or worse), we use Word/Excel all the time at work, being able to use both sure looks good on job app

MicroSoft prices are outrageous, pack of thieves

we got 2003 Office student/teacher package at very reasonable price (compared to full package), was able to legally install/activate it on 3 computers, have to have a student in the family

watch the Office Max/Staples ads

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KEB

10-17-2007 07:45:20




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
If the kids are using it to do homework, you probably want to stick to Microsoft Office rather than OpenOffice (which I've used). Otherwise you'll have a bunch of confusion about how to do what the teacher wants, as the OpenOffice menus & features are a little different than Micorsoft's.

Get the latest Student/Teacher version; they're all backwards compatible with stuff created in earlier versions. Should be around $100 at office supply places & Costco, might find it a little cheaper on-line. You can install it on multiple computers for your own use.

Keith

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koo koo Ka Choo

10-17-2007 06:30:58




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
Openoffice.org

I use it with XP and vista.



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Annn

10-17-2007 06:30:15




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
Before you spend a lot of money on Microsoft's software. Google Open Office. Its free, and is compatible with most features of Microsoft Office. For the price, its worth looking at.

Microsoft Office has had several variations and editions the past several years. Some include features and programs that others don't. Check and make sure of the programs you need, such as Word, Excel, Access, Publisher, etc... Not all of them come with all Office packages.

The Upgrade option only works if you have a qualifying Office product already, such as Office 2003, Office 2000, etc. If you don't, the upgrade won't work. You have to buy a full version. The package the upgrade is in should have a list of what products qualify for upgrades, and you will need the original CDs for that product.

Also, the interface and look of Office 2007 is different than all the past versions. This could make it challenging for some if the school is using one of the older versions. Office 2007 has this ribbon thing for the menus, which many people hate, but some like.

Go to Microsoft's web site, and explore and search the Office section. There is a lot of information there, and screen captures of what they look like.

I have the 2003 Professional edition, which came with Word, Publisher, Excel, Access, Outlook, Powerpoint, Infopath, and a selection of tools for processing pictures and images, scanning, a snapshot viewer, and picture viewer, and some other things.

I don't use all of these, but I use most. This one included the applications I needed for what I wanted to do. And I got a good deal on it from the computer shop that built my computer.

You can also buy the Office applications separately if you only need 1 or 2, but if you need more than just Word or just Excel, then it can be more costly than buying the full package.

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redtom

10-17-2007 06:39:55




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to Annn, 10-17-2007 06:30:15  
I currently don't have any office program, so if I understand your reply, I cannot use the free office upgrade. I would have to buy the complete package right? I'm not opposed to that. I just want to get the best deal and package. I would imagine the school is using the older version so it will have the tool bar instead of the ribbon which may be a bit of a problem for us but nothing we can't learn. I currently have windows xp.

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MarkinMO

10-17-2007 06:19:30




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 Re: OT: Microsoft office? what's best? in reply to redtom, 10-17-2007 06:10:27  
If you want a free product take a look at OpenOffice. They have a Windows version with spreadsheet, word processor, etc. You can open documents created by MS Word and can also save them in Word format. I use the Linux version and it works quite well for me. You can get it at Link



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