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A good drill press?

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Boyd in Mn

10-16-2007 09:57:40




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Whats a good new drill press brand to buy? I don't have a huge amount to spend. It will be mainly for fab work on a lawnmower I'm building and other misc for my trucks. The biggest holes I can think I will be drilling is about 1-1/8th inch in which I could use a stepped bit. Or, is there a good used one I could look out for?




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Roy Suomi

10-17-2007 18:33:08




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
I just bought a 20" Drill Press from HGR Industrial Supply in Cleveland Ohio..It's a beast..I bought a compound for it and I've done some simple milling with it..It drills sweet..It came with a 3/4" chuck for $ 149.00....plus 89.00 for the compound..They have a web site..



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cj3b_jeep

10-17-2007 04:53:28




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
There is a place in Cleveland that sells old industrial tools for pennies on the dollar, pretty much scrap prices. My buddy bought a milling machine there for something like $200. Maybe you have something like that where you live?



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Mr. so and so

10-17-2007 17:48:18




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 Midwest redneck in reply to cj3b_jeep, 10-17-2007 04:53:28  
Did that Bridgeport work for that price. Or was it junk.



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rodgernbama

10-16-2007 20:53:50




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
I bought a harbor freight drill press for $169.00.
It has done what I needed to do which is drill a hole occasionaly. Mine has a 3/4 hp motor. I would get as big a motor s my billfold would stand as you'll need it on larger holes.



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Tim B from MA

10-16-2007 19:49:16




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
The most important point in the replies below is getting drown out in other chatter - to drill anything like 1-inch holes or larger, you need a drill that will run at SLOW speeds (200 rpm is a good suggestion, slower would probably be better). Virtually NONE of the consumer-type drill presses can turn that slow.

So I second the suggestion to look from a used milling machine. If you are in a populated area, you can probably find one on craigslist or ebay in the $500 to $1000 range in a reasonable amount of time.

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Dusty MI

10-16-2007 17:30:07




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
One of the best ai did after ai bought my drill press was put a foot switch on it.

Dusty



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MarkB_MI

10-16-2007 17:08:39




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
I picked up my drill press off eBay. If you're in an industrial area, chances are there are a lot of good presses that will come up for sale cheap because nobody wants to ship them.



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suptscottyb

10-16-2007 16:12:37




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
I've got an old Atlas that works just great.
Buy the way what is this mower you are building?



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Boyd in Mn

10-16-2007 21:31:00




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to suptscottyb, 10-16-2007 16:12:37  
I'm building a few prototypes for experimenting and will be manufacturing them. Half a dozen other companys are making the same basic machine. I hope to get a piece of the growing pie. Its not another zero turn. Scag and someone else just went under. Hope someone swallows them up so no-one is left hanging without a parts source.



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suptscottyb

10-16-2007 21:57:45




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 21:31:00  
Seemed like everyone was making a zero turn there for awhile. Surprised to hear about Scagg, thought they had a pretty good share of the market. I actually looked at buying one before i realized I didn't need that much mower... Good Luck with it, Scottyb



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Earl ni KY

10-16-2007 13:41:44




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
Get yourself an old "Camelback" drill. I have an old 1950 or so Royersford 21". I have drilled 1 5/8s" holes in 2" 350 BRN plate. With no problem. Dont ask its not for sale at any price.
Google Camelback drill. Earl in KY.



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JMS/.MN

10-16-2007 13:10:08




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
For that size you need a slow turning machine. Check out the Machine tools and heavy equipment category in the MPLS tribune. Mr. Machinery, etc. Watch machine shop auctions for industrial presses. I bought two last year, have one to sell, need to remount the motor and get a drive belt made. Looking at $375 for that one.



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Midwest redneck

10-16-2007 12:27:06




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
Get a used powermatic or a used Bridgeport. A good BP is about $1500



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TimV

10-16-2007 12:26:58




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
Boyd: A good, big, old Delta, Buffalo, Dayton, etc. etc. would be just the ticket, if you have the space (these things are big and soggy), but shipping could easily come to more than the press cost if you've got to move it very far. Additionally, depending on how old it is, you may end up dealing with things like babbit bearings, cone head speed changes, line shaft conversions, limited speed ratios, oddball (nonstandard) chuck and spindle tapers, and a bunch of other issues that have long since been standardized, or at least knocked down to a few, relatively common configurations. Most of these issues are surmountable, but are something to keep in the back of your mind if you're looking for something that you can bring home, plug in, and start drilling holes. The import presses (pick a name--Harbor Freight, Northen Tool, Clarke, Grizzly, Jet, Cummins, Homier, and even many of the "homeowner" grades of name brands such as Sears are all basically the same press with different decals and paint)will work fine for light-duty use, provided you're willing to do the usual tweaking that most China-made stuff requires--tightening bolts, aligning pulleys, truing quills, etc. The single biggest downfall of the cheapie presses is that their speed ranges tend to fall at the high end of what the press is capable of--most of the pedestal presses have a 1/2" (or 15 mm, which is a bit over 1/2") chuck and won't hold a bit below 1/8" very well, but their drilling speeds are more suited for bits in a range from 1/16" to perhaps 7/16". Seeing that many people will add insult to injury and use Silver & Deming (cut-down shank) bits to drill up to 1" or even beyond in these presses, it creates a good recipe for burning up drill bits, belts, and motors. While you can do this by step-drilling and using plenty of lube, it's not very efficient if you've got a lot of big holes to drill. Two solutions are mounting a slower-speed motor or fabbing a jackshaft and another pully, but both require a fair amount of work. Bottom line is that unless you fall on a good deal on a good drill press, you're going to have to either tweak whatever you buy or live with some limitations.

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Stumpalump

10-16-2007 11:36:45




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
I found a nice Delta for 100 bucks on craigslist.
The guy bought and sold at auctions and he told me drill presses were a dime a dozen in his biz.



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Mike M

10-16-2007 11:32:32




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
Find an older milling machine and you will wonder how you ever got along without it.



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RustyFarmall

10-16-2007 16:58:23




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Mike M, 10-16-2007 11:32:32  
Ditto on the older milling machine. I'd have one in a heartbeat if I could afford it. A well used milling machine is better than a brand new drill press any day.



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135 Fan

10-16-2007 10:54:02




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
Find one that turns the slowest for bigger bits. At least under 200 rpms on slowest speed. Dave



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K.W. in Tx

10-16-2007 10:50:28




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
JET and Delta are good. Delta is probably cheaper than JET tho.



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Ron in Nebr

10-16-2007 10:27:54




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 Re: A good drill press? in reply to Boyd in Mn, 10-16-2007 09:57:40  
"Most" of the new ones you'll find at a reasonable price will be foreign-built. They might work ok, but I've heard and experienced alot of things about poor tolerances, low quality castings, etc.

Personally I'd look around for an older American-built press. They were built to last. Do a search on ebay for drill presses to find some good quality brand names. Dayton, older Craftsman, etc.



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