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anybody have a rol-air air compressor?

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icantfindanamethatworks

10-14-2007 13:57:14




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I am wanting a new gas powered wheel barrow compressor. I really like the rol-air, but cant find a whole lot on them. So anybody have em? Are they a good compressor? I am looking at the 5.5 horse 8.9cfm@100 psi. 4090hk17 model So anybody have any opinions on them?

later!! chris




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icantfindanamethatworks

10-14-2007 16:03:08




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 back to xrodgerx in reply to icantfindanamethatworks, 10-14-2007 13:57:14  
well glad to see the famous roger is still kicking. I went down this road last year trying to decide which compressor to buy then gave up, and well back on the kick this year. My chinese titan is really bugging me.. No back to the topic, i was throwing around the idea of getting a dewalt or jenny compressor but unsure of dewalts quality now they have gone mexico, and jenny unsure if there is a dealer in town, same for dewalt, unsure about dealer. So is dewalt still better than rol-air? And jenny proably better than both? What exactly makes the dewalt jenny emglo pump so superior? Is there really gonna be a noticeable difference in how long one lasts over the other?? Just curious why you hold the ku pump in such high regards. Give me a good run down, this is the kind of info i have been huntin for.. I want this to be a good decision, cause i hope for it to last a long time..

later!! chris Thanks!!

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XRogerX

10-14-2007 17:09:16




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 Re: back to xrodgerx in reply to icantfindanamethatworks, 10-14-2007 16:03:08  
The Emglo/DeWalt/Jenny pump is just a very well built pump, with disc valves and built-in head unloaders. You can get some with pressure lubrication as well. All cast-iron construction (heavy to carry though).

With the unloaders built into the head, you have a quieter running machine. The Rol-Air will have to have some sort of exhaust dump valve to bleed air off to atmosphere when not pumping, since there is no mechanism to hold the intake valves open when running unloaded. Both systems work fine, but I think the Emglo/DeWalt/Jenny system is a superior design. There may be some lower-end units without these head unloaders though, so look to see if there is a 1/4" copper line going into the side of the head, that's the giveaway.

I don't understand how they can sell the same pump under the DeWalt and Jenny names, unless one is licensing the design from the other. Either way, if it's the same as the original Emglo unit, it is a very well built pump. I'd take disc valves over reed valves if the prices aren't too far apart. If the Rol-Air is significantly cheaper, I wouldn't feel bad about going that route, if it has a motor you can trust. The only drawback to the Emglo pump was the fact that they used a roll pin for a key on the input shaft flywheel, which was pure hell to remove when servicing the unit.

Keep all portable compressors nice and level when using them too, or you may starve a con-rod bearing of oil.

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icantfindanamethatworks

10-14-2007 17:26:07




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 one more question xrodgerx in reply to XRogerX, 10-14-2007 17:09:16  
well they both have the same honda motor. What little i heard the rol-air run, it was super quiet compared to what i have now. I guess i will check on dewalt availability and if i cant find one, i will go rol-air and enjoy.. Now one new question, whats your take on the direct drive gas powered oil lubed hand carry jobs? I like the looks of them and the size, and the portability, but wonder on the longevity? Any expierence with them? Do they last worth a durn? The electric version seems to run forever.. So any input on those?

later chris

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XRogerx

10-15-2007 20:09:30




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 Re: one more question xrodgerx in reply to icantfindanamethatworks, 10-14-2007 17:26:07  
I have no experience with these. I have seen only one, a cheap Chinese job with a fake Honda motor. I'd be worried about vibration cracking the tank, but I can't say for sure.



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icantfindanamethatworks

10-16-2007 06:46:13




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 xrodgerx looks like dewalt might be worse than i thought in reply to XRogerx, 10-15-2007 20:09:30  
I talked to the jenny folks and they said dewalt couldnt make them cheap enough in mexico, but they could in china. Dont know if its true or if its all its model but if they are made in china, i definitely dont want one. And nobody around me carries jenny or can get it reasonable. So i guess rol-air is what i am gonna end up with. just a heads up on dewalt.. I tell ya, never thought picking out a new compressor would be so hard. I just want something quality, that is gonna last. It is just mind boggling trying to weed through whats available to try and find the right choice. And and one more question, most people think of wheelbarrow compressors are for carpenters. I don't see one reason why they aren't just as suited for light mechanics work away from the power plug. They put out more cfm than most electrics, and if you need more gallons just add you a tank. What kind of stuff have you seen gas wheelbarrow compressors used for? I look at them like they are a portable design with more than enough capacity for what ever i need them for. enough babbling..

later!! chris

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XRogerX

10-14-2007 14:59:48




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 Re: anybody have a rol-air air compressor? in reply to icantfindanamethatworks, 10-14-2007 13:57:14  
They are decent units. They use an Italian Chinook pump, which uses a fair bit of aluminum for weight savings and cooling efficiency, but has a solid cast-iron block, and steel cylinder head plates. They are a durable pump. If you change the oil regularly, they will give good service. They will wear out the heads eventually, with the reed valves cutting grooves into the valve plates, but that's after a lot of use. I would take one of these pumps over a Campbell Hausfeld of the same size. Really, if you want the absolute Cadillac (Toyota) of portable gas powered compressors, you would have to get a Honda powered Emglo with a KU pump on it, but you'll have to pay.

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