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Price of 6 inch H beams?

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Nick

06-26-2001 19:13:55




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Does anyone know or can give a rough est. of what a 20 foot by 6 inch H beam would cost. Im planning on building a gooseneck equipment trailer and I THINK,, I can build one cheaper than I can buy one.




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Dan

07-11-2001 16:08:07




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 Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Nick , 06-26-2001 19:13:55  
H or I what ever you want to call it, In my opion neither one is right. I would use C chanel which is cheaper and the right steel for building a trailer.



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Bart

07-01-2001 02:53:11




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 Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Nick , 06-26-2001 19:13:55  
Bought an I beam to run down the center of the garage I,m building. No posts in garage. 34 feet long, 21" web, 6" wide. $790.00 delivered 50 miles.



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Jerry

06-28-2001 12:25:23




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 Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Nick , 06-26-2001 19:13:55  
Hi Nick, In my official little book the metal dealer gave me it lists "Wide Flange Beam" 5.99"x5.99" x .230(approx quarter in) wall thickness is equal to 15 pounds a foot. So at .33 cent a pound x 15 = 4.95 a foot. 40 foot @ 4.95 =$198.00. This is not a bad price but if I was doing a 20 foot trailer I might look at 8" standard I beam or 8" channel. Thats my 2c, but anyhow go build yourself a heck of a trailer. ;^)

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Nathan(GA)

06-28-2001 07:44:12




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 Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Nick , 06-26-2001 19:13:55  
The place I buy from sells by the pound. It's been about a year, but the last I bought was around 33 cents a pound.

There is another machine shop a little closer that sells by the foot. If you figure it out, they are getting about 80 cents a foot.



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Joe Evans

06-27-2001 20:45:32




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 Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Nick , 06-26-2001 19:13:55  
"H Beam" is a term no longer used unless you are referring to beams that have an "H" shaped cross-section that are used in shoring and piling applications. These are called "H-Piles". Typical structural beams are called either "wide flange beams" or "I beams". I beams are technically listed as "S beams"--the S standing for "standard". Wide flange beams have no inner taper on their flanges. I-beams are recognized by an inner taper on the flanges and are commonly used for crane rails. Beams are listed by their nominal depth of section and weight per foot of length. A 8" wide flange beam that weighs 31 lbs. per foot will be listed as a W8x31. This particular beam has a true H sectional shape. I beams are listed as, say S6x12.7. We typically pay on an average of about $0.28 per pound for structural shapes--beams, channels, and angle.

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Nick

06-28-2001 18:20:58




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 Re: Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Joe Evans, 06-27-2001 20:45:32  
I wonder what would be the cheapest thing to make a frame out of?



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Branden

06-28-2001 18:45:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Nick , 06-28-2001 18:20:58  
I think your cheapest bet would be channel iron.

Branden



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Branden

06-27-2001 10:32:14




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 Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Nick , 06-26-2001 19:13:55  
If I might add, I believe you mean "I" beam, but I know what you are talking about. Also, make sure you either 1. buy engineered plans, or 2. have an engineer draw them up. You can buy plans from Northern Tool for around $30 for the goose neck trailer that you are probably looking for. They also come with a materials list.

Also I might add, I would never use the material you want to use to build a trailer with...."I" beam. I use boxed sectioned material, such as rectanular tubing. You really need to go off a set of plans with these things. How are your welding skills?

Branden

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Nick

06-27-2001 18:54:54




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 Re: Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Branden, 06-27-2001 10:32:14  
Just alittle tip, If an "I" beam is the same wide as it is high, It is called an H beam. Exe. 6x6. My welding skills are very good, But northern does not have the plans I need, The lowboy is to narrow and the dual tandam equipment goosenck is to wide and long. Id like to find plans that arnt 40 bucks any way. I fell out of the poor tree.



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Branden

06-28-2001 16:01:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Nick, 06-27-2001 18:54:54  
You are correct about the "H" beam. Now, I'm not an engineer, but I'd be willing to bet that you would get ALOT more strength out of boxed section material of the same thickness and diameter, versus the "H" beam. Also, it looks cleaner in my opinion.

Branden



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Erich

07-02-2001 08:24:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Branden, 06-28-2001 16:01:55  
It depends on what kind of strength you need. Box sections have much better torsional strength, so the frame won't twist nearly as much if properly designed. However, I, WF, H and even C sections usually have more strength/weight in their X axis (strong direction). Square tubing would have equal strength in both X and Y axes.



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Tom

06-28-2001 17:58:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Branden, 06-28-2001 16:01:55  
The only thing I don't like about tubing, square or otherwise, is that it can rust inside and you can't tell it is doing it, never mind stop it. A chanel or I beam can be cleaned and painted as necessary. I guess you could seal up a tube frame and spray oil or something else inside to stop rust. Threaded pipe plugs or something to allow access for spraying. I know that some small pickups have tube frames and the one my father had rusted out, got full of water, salt, and sand. Might depend on where you live, and how much salt and dampness there is.

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Mark Kw

06-27-2001 11:17:11




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 Re: Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Branden, 06-27-2001 10:32:14  
Great points to bring up Branden! I've built many trailers from little utility ones to fully custom 53 footers. I often forget about these sorts of things when posting.

H & I beams are both commonly used in trailer building depending upon the nature of the completed unit. Some are not structural steel but "ship and car" because of their sizing and alloy properties. You also need to know if it is required to be pre-stressed too. Thanks for kicking the old brain box back into gear.

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Mark Kw

06-26-2001 21:54:29




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 Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Nick , 06-26-2001 19:13:55  
I would not bet on that unless you have a lot of stock handy to use for free. I'm assuming you're looking at something like a Tag-a-Long type. If so, you can usually pick the smaller ones up for a few hundred bucks and get away with just doing some patch work to get it in safe order.

Beams are sized by dimentions and weight per foot. New steel is high right now even though they ain't paying nothing at the scrap yards. Without knowing the web and flange thickness (weight) you need, I have to guess that one will run you between $7.50 to $18 per foot roughly.

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Nick

07-01-2001 14:07:25




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 Re: Re: Price of 6 inch H beams? in reply to Mark Kw, 06-26-2001 21:54:29  
A tag along trailer would be cheap, But I need a googeneck trailer, preferably 8x20. If I could only find one of those for a few hundred bucks...



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