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The future of log splitting

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Wardner

10-11-2007 13:48:52




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I saw the thread below and I am wondering why nobody has mentioned the flywheel splitter. I saw three of them in use at a firewood dealer the other day.

They are unbelievable. A 5.5 hp gas motor drives a set of small flywheels with a pinion gear centered on the common shaft. A rack gear is lifted to engage the rack and pinion. This machine cycles 20-30 times a minute using a spring return. Nothing stops it. It could be a hands-free operation with the operator only handling the logs.

Enough with my poor description. The manufacturer has three You Tube videos. The link below is for the shortest one. There is also a company website. They have included a schematic that shows the mechanism. It looks like it could be made for fewer bucks than a hydraulic machine Search on Super Split log splitter.

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Tim B from MA

10-12-2007 09:52:31




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to Wardner, 10-11-2007 13:48:52  
I've seen those types of splitters before, but never seen one working. I like the speed, clearly, but I doubt that even the larger of those machines (? 100 lbs of a fairly small diameter fly wheel ?) can do the job for which splitters are most valuable ...

split those pieces that are too much work to split with a maul.]

I watched the longer video on MySpace. Those were good SIZED logs - red maple I think - but they were all straight and would split with a 7 pound maul and a mean look. I don't know if that was the larger machine, but it could not split a few of those logs on the first stroke.

I also agree about the saftey issue. It looks safe enough when you are fresh and paying attention, but after a few hours of repetitive work, I could certainly seen having fingers draped over one end of the log and not enough time to wake up to the fact.

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Mike M

10-12-2007 09:52:29




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to Wardner, 10-11-2007 13:48:52  
Those 2 guys working together with axes could of split that nice wood faster.



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RegoR

10-12-2007 06:33:53




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to Wardner, 10-11-2007 13:48:52  
That things scares me.
When I release the handle on my conventional hydraulic log splitter, the ram immediately stops then retracts. Whereas, the one shown continues to move forward until it reaches the wedge- no matter what may have inadvertanly come into its path. Yikes!
Also, while my splitter is quite as fast as the featured machine, it's not nearly as slow as the one they chose to compare it with. Unless it were for commercial production speed, the difference between mine and that one is negligible.

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Kansas Cockshutt

10-14-2007 00:26:44




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to RegoR, 10-12-2007 06:33:53  
I agree 100%. It is fine and dandy on a nice day when you are fresh. But when you get 2 or 3 guys loading, carrying and splitting after a few hours on a cruddy day there has been many times fingers and hands have been saved because someone caught it in time and "froze" on the hydraulic lever- once that flywheel thing commits anything in the strike zone is fair game... Moves to fast to reach to disengage the gear- just pull your mangled hand out after the fact. Ouch.

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NTP

10-12-2007 06:22:02




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to Wardner, 10-11-2007 13:48:52  
How this got by OSHA is beyond me. What stops it if the operator becomes distracted and just happens to somehow get a finger in the wrong place? On a hydraulic splitter that we have, you need to keep your hand on the handle until the ram is fully extended. No matter how observant one is, it is easy to become distracted when doing repetitive movements. A fellow around here has a splitter that will split the log into 4 pieces with each ram stroke. He has a conveyor system that takes the split wood away and deposits them on a pile.Now that is fast splitting.

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Jerry/MT

10-11-2007 21:13:17




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to Wardner, 10-11-2007 13:48:52  
Looks like a remake of an old mechanical design. Pretty quick cycle time but I really don"t see why a hydraulic log splitter couldn"t do the same thing with a little more pump flow. That"s all it would take to decrease the cycle time on a hydraulic system. This device has a lot of mechanical parts that will wear out that a hydraulic splitter doesn"t have.



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Bruce Dorsi

10-11-2007 15:50:12




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 NOT a new concept! in reply to Wardner, 10-11-2007 13:48:52  
My father-in-law has had one of those splitters for almost 25 years, and has split 300-400 cords of wood with his. ....They were originally manufactured by FXG(?)Corp of Massachusetts. .....His came with a 3hp B&S engine, and small 10x2.75 wheels.

I fabricated a wider axle with 16x6.50-8 tires for better stability. ....He did wear out one engine, the pinion gear shaft, one centrifugal clutch, and a couple springs in all those years.

These splitters are NOT a toy, despite their size and appearance. ....They are VERY effective in splitting! .....For gnarly and twisted grain, the wedge end of the log can be lifted slightly, and the wedge will split it easily.

The rapid extension of the ram is more like the action of a splitting maul, compared to the slow pushing action of a hydraulic splitter.

We ran a 9hp, 16gpm, 2-stage hydraulic splitter side-by-side with my f-i-l's splitter, and his machine split the same wood as the hydraulic, but his production was much greater due to the quick cycle time.

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jeffcat

10-11-2007 15:10:28




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to Wardner, 10-11-2007 13:48:52  
That machine has been around for a bit. One is down the road at a wood supply place. WOW does it ever split nice straight stuff but keep the fingers out of the way!! It is a production machine and I think that is your answer.



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M Moline Fan

10-11-2007 14:51:24




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to Wardner, 10-11-2007 13:48:52  
What I notice in the video is the wood being split is straight grain- easy splitting. Also the mechanism moves fast. What would it do with really knotty hardwood or elm where part of the "splitting" is "shearing"? I can't believe 5.5 hp. could do the job at that rate. Looks like it would get a lot done fast when the going isn't too tough. Also the operator in the video needs to be careful where he has his hands while it's splitting.

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Wardner

10-11-2007 15:23:50




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to M Moline Fan, 10-11-2007 14:51:24  
Look at one of the longer videos. There is a six minute session where some of the wood is kinda knarly.

The wood I saw split in person was large diameter hardwood although I didn't get out of my truck for a closer look.

I presume the operating handle is on top for safety reasons. Seems like a shielded foot pedal might work even better. It seems to me that two handed log splitting is safer than one hand on the hydraulic lever and one on the log.

As to the 5.5 hp, you have to remember that the flywheel is accepting energy while the ram is on the back stroke or when major resistance is over within the first 1/2".

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midwest redneck

10-11-2007 13:56:17




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 Re: The future of log splitting in reply to Wardner, 10-11-2007 13:48:52  
That is really cool I have never seen one of those before.



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