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Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with

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Bob - MI

10-10-2007 10:47:36




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I know that I am dating myself here but our VCR died about 2 weeks ago and I need a replacement. Did not know that the government mandate to go digital in 2009 forced manufacturers to abandon the analog tuners we all used in our vcr"s. I am now trying to decide whether to go with a DVD recorder or make the leap to a DVR with a hard drive on it. I don"t want to pay for TiVo service.

I"m confused on which way to go here. It"s sad that a machine that was less than $50.00 about a year ago is now much more complex and now 5-times as expensive. I just need something to record her programs with. The trick with all the new stuff is getting something with a tuner built-in.

I also bought a refurbished VCR/DVD combo unit from Tiger Direct 2 weeks ago and it was DOA. Naturally no return on it and I now have it off to the Samsung repair center. Wife is less than impressed with my results on this one.

Any experiences on this would be appreciated.

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Pooh Bear

10-12-2007 00:31:37




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Bob - MI, 10-10-2007 10:47:36  
I can understand not wanting to pay the monthly fee for Tivo,

but after using one I wouldn't want to use anything else.

I got an 80 hour dual tuner Tivo for $50 and pay $13 per month.

I can watch a previously recorded show while recording 2 other shows.

I can transfer recordings to my computer for extra storage.

I wouldn't go back to a VCR for anything.

Pooh Bear

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Bob - MI

10-11-2007 13:01:04




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Bob - MI, 10-10-2007 10:47:36  
Thanks to everyone who responded. We don't want permanent copies, just want to catch up on what we missed and then erase it.

Got an e-mail from Samsung service today and they promise that the unit is repaired and will be back tomorrow. Who knows, this thing may actually work!!

Soundguy's got me thinking a bit. I travel occasionally for work so I will be stopping to check the electronics selections at the stores that I usually pass by.

I really like the ideas that you guys had. I knew this would be a great place to ask technical qustions.

Thanks again!!

Bob

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The REAL Hal/WA

10-10-2007 20:55:37




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Bob - MI, 10-10-2007 10:47:36  
I would just buy a new VHS vcr, and if I had to, it would also have a DVD player in it, since most that I have seen advertised lately have both capabilities.

Some years ago, when VCR's were brand new technology, there were 2 formats: VHS, which had somewhat larger tapes, and BETA, which used a smaller tape, and I thought recorded a better picture. I started with a Beta system, and accumulated about 100 tapes of recordings. Then it became clear that VHS was winning the contest between the formats, so we bought a VHS system so we could play the available rental movies. A few years later, our Beta machine went bad and I found that I could no longer find a replacement or cheap tapes anymore. I wish I had started with VHS, but that's the way the ball bounces!

Since I now have quite a library of VHS recordings, I am concerned that it will become hard to find new VHS machines in the future. I have been thinking about stockpiling a few. The machines I have seen advertised recently have not been very expensive--only about $100 or so, which seems like a bargain, since my first Beta machine cost about $850 back in 1977, and that was supposed to be a wholesale price.

We have a hard drive recorder, that also has a DVD burner that is a couple of years old. It was fairly expensive, but works pretty well. It uses DVD+R discs and can record up to 2.5 hours on each disc. I don't know how permanent the recordings are though. I have VHS tapes that work great that were recorded in the early 80's. The only thing with this machine that really concerns me is that it does not have a tuner that will pick up the newer high definition digital signals, so it might become outmoded when and if they stop broadcasting analog signals. If we don't want to archive programs, we can store nearly 100 hours of programing on the internal hard drive.

I have tried a few used VCR's from thrift stores. I have never found a good one--they usually are there because there is something wrong with them. It used to be that there were shops that would fix VCR's around this area, but I haven't seen any for maybe 10 years. I guess they found that it just didn't pay well enough to fix them when new ones could be bought so cheaply.

Good luck, hope this helped.

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Eric SEI

10-10-2007 19:21:46




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Bob - MI, 10-10-2007 10:47:36  
The question is: Do you want to make permanent copies or do you just want to watch shows a little later? If you want to make copies that you can put on the shelf then you need a DVD burner. If all you want is to watch shows at a more convenient time then you want a hard drive recorder. Forget the technical mumbo jumbo, it's all about what do you want to do?



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VaTom

10-10-2007 17:11:10




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Bob - MI, 10-10-2007 10:47:36  
Bob, we recently went through the same confusion. Older, analog TV that works fine. Bought a DVD recorder, built-in tuner, that's both analog and digital. Many DVD recorders don't have tuners, as you've already learned.

The hard drive available with DVD recorders offered nothing to us.

We're set for 2009, with our old TV. Still have a functional VCR for our tapes. Our decision to change? The VCR remote died, can't program the VCR without a remote and no "universal" remote would work with our Panasonic VCR. Grrrrr

We bought a Philips DVDR, works very well. About $220 with a required RF modulator. We do have to delete the DVD recording, not just re-record.

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Vern-MI

10-10-2007 15:56:10




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Bob - MI, 10-10-2007 10:47:36  
Bob you seem to be the techy type so why not just bite the bullet and buy an HTPC?....



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Vern-MI

10-10-2007 16:04:58




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Vern-MI, 10-10-2007 15:56:10  
Better yet, why not build your own HTPC and show us how you can pi$$ in the tall grass with the big guys?

You can fall asleep or mow the lawn and then come back and pick up the movie where you left off.



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soundguy

10-10-2007 14:43:47




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Bob - MI, 10-10-2007 10:47:36  
i wouldn't have wasted my money on a reman dvd/vcr, when wallmart has them for about the price a vcr was 2ys ago.. etc..

soundguy



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Bob - MI

10-11-2007 09:22:19




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to soundguy, 10-10-2007 14:43:47  
Sounder,

None of the stores within a 50 mile radius have a vcr with a tuner in it. Not even the 3 wally world"s that I went to. That"s the real issue with this.



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soundguy

10-11-2007 10:45:45




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Bob - MI, 10-11-2007 09:22:19  
Weird... I live in the boonies and our local wally world has just about any type of dvd/dvr/vcr combo you want.. and I think they still carry one brand of VCP.. etc. ( all have tuners that are digital ready).

Must be a regional thing..

Soundguy



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higgins

10-10-2007 12:35:34




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to Bob - MI, 10-10-2007 10:47:36  
Try local Goodwill/thrift stores where you can test them. Or check yard sales - you can test them too. We have a 10 yr old RCA I thought was dead. After a couple of years I took off the top and found my granddaughter had tried to play cards in it...Took out the card and the mechanism looked really simple. Anyway it is doing fine again. Also if a belt is broken; those can be found at RadioShack or really any electronic repair shop.

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Acer

10-10-2007 14:47:56




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 Re: Kind of a tool... VCR died, what to replace it with in reply to higgins, 10-10-2007 12:35:34  
$2 at a garage sale.



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