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How about the workshop ?

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Bill Oakes

06-20-2001 11:05:27




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I think it would be great for all you very experienced guys to share with others your best workshop tips. What pieces of equipment have you found most useful working on tractors? Or possibly you have suggestions about the layout of a good shop? Things like ceiling, wall or floor surfaces? What kind of lighting works best? How do you store parts and supplies? Do you have a clean space? How do you handle cleaning or painting? C'mom. share your secrets with us less experienced tractor lovers.

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Farmer

06-26-2001 14:59:58




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 Re: How about the workshop ? in reply to Bill Oakes, 06-20-2001 11:05:27  
I built a 40X56 with 14 foot side wall pole barn for a shop 5 years ago. It has 6 inches of insulation, 6 inch concrete floor,and a 24 foot(2 piece)sliding door in the middle of the side wall.
The interior walls and ceiling are 28 gauge white sheeting (same as the outside) It helps reflect light and is easy to clean when a hydraulic line blows . Try that with dry wall. It was cheaper than dry wall as it was less labour to install Electrical plugs are spaced every 8 feet. Overhead lights are 8 foot flourecent 6 in the ceiling , 2 banks of 3. 2in the end wall, 3 in the side wall 3 feet down from the ceiling. I On one end wall I installed a 4 foot wide mezzanine when odds and ends are stored and my horizontal 10 hp air compressor sits up there to. 4 four foot flourecnt lights on the under side of the mezzanine that light up my work benches about 30 feet of them. There are 2 windows in front of the benches for natural light.

Heat is supplied from a Dove Tec Corn stove that I burn waste seed corn , wheat, or rye in. A little more than a bushel a day to keep the shop heated through the winter (60 degrees). Wish List a running water, and a wash room. I also to wish I made it bigger.I should have went 48 by 64 with a 16 foot side wall.When I move my 860 Massey combine with 20 foot grain table in side there is not a lot of extra room. It has been a pleasure to work in. Sure beats the dirt and gravel I use to have to work on.

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DavidRP

06-24-2001 08:07:17




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 Re: How about the workshop ? in reply to Bill Oakes, 06-20-2001 11:05:27  
I agree with Pete in KS what works for one may not for another and no two shops are the same. I plan to put in hot and cold running water this year I can't believe how much I miss it. My shop has a cement floor and I try to put wheels under everything so when I move it I can do it with ease. Over the years you will be moving stuff out of the way. I put in a radio with a couple of speakers, a TV mainly for weekend football games and a small refrigerator. I have a small wood burning stove but it doesn't stay that cold here in Texas but, it works when I need it. I have a wireless intercom to the house but, I do not nor will I ever have a telephone. I don't go out to the shop to talk on the phone If I did I would just stay in the house. If I had to built the shop again I would make it bigger and change some things.

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Chris

06-22-2001 19:18:07




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 Re: How about the workshop ? in reply to Bill Oakes, 06-20-2001 11:05:27  
A restroom as suggested by others might be nice but I will not go that far in my current situation. I will say a small hot/cold water sink is the best adition to my shop. It is so nice to be able to clean the grease off my hands before using the door knob and light switches in the house.



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ironhead

06-21-2001 19:06:12




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 Re: How about the workshop ? in reply to Bill Oakes, 06-20-2001 11:05:27  
Put a bathroom in it W/shower. Best thing I did to mine. And I dont have to hear it from my wife about coming in the house all dirty. ;^)



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Pete in Ks

06-21-2001 11:56:40




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 Re: How about the workshop ? in reply to Bill Oakes, 06-20-2001 11:05:27  
Well Bill what works for me or Dean or Grove r May not work for you. I have never seen two shops alike in my life. Take the time to think of all the possibilities in the space you have. And space is the biggest item you face. In my case if I decide how much I need then double it I still run out.:-) I have industrial shelves at one end of my shop to hold sheet metal from tractor or larger items from the project I'm working on. This keeps them organized and UNDAMAGED. I am in the process of adding the freeze room like Grover discussed although mine is 8' x 12' and has hot and cold running water and a toilet. The preasure washer is the greatest thing since buttered bread. I have found with hot water even the 1300psi electric units do a decent job. The movable A-frame with hoist saves my back. I could go on and on and will have covered every tool in the shop as important. What works for you will be determined at some date in the future.:-)

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Dean

06-20-2001 11:45:03




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 Re: How about the workshop ? in reply to Bill Oakes, 06-20-2001 11:05:27  
The most important aspect is layout. I spent many weeks getting it right. For me that meant tools stored near where they would be used, tractor within a few feet of the workbench, intense light (both natural and fluorescent) over the workbench and task lighting everywhere else, parts and lubricants stored logically, etc. The time savings in not having to hunt for stuff is amazing.



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Grove r

06-20-2001 14:15:05




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 Re: Re: How about the workshop ? in reply to Dean, 06-20-2001 11:45:03  
Something I plan on incorperating into the workbench are several swing out trays, about two feet wide. These will be made of 1/16" stock, no more than two inches deep, in a quarter circle designe, with a piece of pipe at the right angle corner, slightly longer than the depth of the tray. Several of these will be mounted on a pivot pipe secured to the floor and the bottom of the workbench. The object is to store the inevitable odds and ends that accumulate in boxes, pails and jars, like the old sqaure nuts that I use for welding to sheet metal hoods for the mounting bolts, also stuff like brass fittings, of which there seems to be no end of types..... well you get the picture.

Another suggestion is shallow plywood trays that slide out from under the top of the workbench to hold gaskets.

Sounds a bit elaborate, but I plan on a ten by ten foot fully insulated 'room" in one corner of my shop, to be heated seperatly from the shop. This "room" will contain a 60 gal water heater, a washing machine, basin and lav. With the freezables in one small room, so I won't have to heat the rest of the shop when not in use.

These are suggestions only and not intended to imply that I am an expert. Hope these few ideas will help a little. Have a gooder, R.E.L.

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jim

06-22-2001 23:46:07




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 Re: Re: Re: How about the workshop ? in reply to Grove r, 06-20-2001 14:15:05  
i made big sheet metal pans about 1 1/2" deep of various sizes, 3x4 ft is a good size. you can put under equipment to catch oil or tear down componets in them with out making a mess.



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Greaseman

06-26-2001 09:13:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How about the workshop ? in reply to jim, 06-22-2001 23:46:07  
Well there is no such thing as a perfect shop, nor big enough. I will recomend you get a "BIG" air compresser, with 3/4"I.D. pipe running thruogh it and an electrical outlets every two feet, all the natural and electrical lighting you can get and get the inside painted WHITE as this will help with lighting also. I am using a 12X20 building now and it has a Ferguson and an Allis Chalmers "B" in it, I have to crawl over one and under the other for my working's. I plan to put a loft in, to hold my primed and completed parts awaiting final assembly. If all goes well I plan to extend the building and put in a heater along with my Big air compressor (25CFM @110 PSI) which will take care of any thing I will everneed unless I get A Rumely Oil Pull, then I will build a building just for that toy alone.

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