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Need 16� chainsaw recommendation

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fern(Mi)

09-05-2007 18:09:46




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Seeing as how I had wore out my original new Homelite XL12 twice some years ago, and filled in the last few years with a used/now obsolete McCullough Eager Beaver, I am in serious need of a new saw. I want it light, no more than 16� bar, medium priced, spark plug and saw chain easily changeable, and parts availability until my spirit departs this body. Fernan

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Jerry Eime

09-07-2007 23:06:36




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
My parents own a small engine repair shop for over 25 years now and we have sold Dolmar, Redmax and Husqvarna. The only parts we have to stock for the Dolmar are spark plugs, air filters, and shock grommets. Never have we had to do a major warrenty for any engine problem, beside an oil injector leak on the 540. The Redmax is a true performer. They are a joint company that was United States and Japan but now Husqvarna bought them out because they have such great technology. And to clear up the Husqvarna issue, they only produce two saws that are made by Polan. The 137 and 142. All the rest are made in Sweeden. We have sold alot of those saws and have had no complaints. But we work on stills all day long and since we aren't a still dealer, if we can't get parts aftermarket, they are way overpriced and have come to the model of quanty over quality. If you want a saw that can take the abouse then Dolmar, Redmax or Husqvarna or even Echo. Stay away from poluns, craftsmens, and stills. Waste of money!!!

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Bob - MI

09-07-2007 11:50:42




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
Some time ago there was a survey on the site about saws. As I recall Stihl was the top rated with the usual Echo and Husky choices close thereafter.

I only use a saw occasionally and I can"t give a serious suggestion because I get by nicely for over 10 years with a 16" McCulloch for light duty and a 20" Poulan Pro for bigger stuff. The Poulan has been real sensitive to fuel age and loses power if the gas is getting old. I switched to synthetic oil and I keep the gas fresh and it does fine for my needs. I realize that many will say these saws are junk and they may well be right.

I bought the Poulan Pro for $220.00 with a case @ Lowes about 7 years ago. I was also looking at Husky"s but realized that they are the same company now and figured if I got a higher grade Poulan that I may be getting close to the Husqvarna. I have never been sure about that one however. If you are leaning towards Husqvarna check out Jack"s Small Engines. They usually have some good deals.

Best of luck on whatever you choose.

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suptscottyb

09-07-2007 05:47:40




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
Okay. The opinions are in. Now tell us what you decided to buy and why...Thanxs!



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redtom

09-06-2007 18:50:05




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
Every body has their favorites. Take the plastic covers off a new Husqvarna and you'll se its a poulan. They were good years ago but now are cheap. Thats why every store, Lowes,TSC etc carries them. The high end pro models probably aren't that way but they're also much more expensive. I still like my old Stihl 028's and would but a new Stihl. I was told they're one of the only ones that actually still make their own saw.

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amo

09-06-2007 15:38:02




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
Hussqvarna is one of the best and fastest cutting saws i have ever seen or used.



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JT

09-06-2007 06:56:49




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
fern,
Stihl is not a bad saw, but you pay a lot of money for a name. Stihl makes two differant saws, a consumer product and a commercial product. They are highly overrated, they use a fuel line that, in time (1-5 years) you will replace, and it can only be bought from a Stihl dealer, about $6.00 last one we bought, their air filters are over priced, some as high as $20.00. Theri warranty is a little suspect, I have heard of customers being denied warranty because they used an 89 octane fuel, said they were using too cheap of fuel. If you want a serious saw, get a Dolmar saw, they are still a german built saw, and are reasonably priced, a 16" will be aorund $225.00 Any saw you buy will have parts issues in 10-15 years or less, that is the nature of the saw industry. If you want a good reasonably priced saw, get a Poulan Pro saw. A neighbor had one he used for over 10 years, run over it with a tractor, do not understand why it broke, but it did, I guess they do not make 'am like they used to. ) If you think I am wrong with my opinion on Stihl, go to your local Stihl dealer, see how many Stihl saws are in his shop, then see how many of what other brands are there, you will more than likely see a lot of Stihls there, I am not a Stihl dealer, but we work on a lot of them, and most of them are fuel line problems, they are an accordian looking line, they crack and leak fuel, and we also have to replace some Stihl carbs, we try to rebuild them and it cannot be done correctly, and Stihl is the only one we have this problem with. My third choice of a Saw, after dolmar and Poulan Pro, would be Echo, then Shindaiwa, then Husquvarna, then Stihl. some of the small Husqvarna are the same saw as the cheap green Poulan saws, so you have to watch that also.
Jim

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farmer boy

09-06-2007 20:00:15




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to JT, 09-06-2007 06:56:49  
Their not all that overrated. You can't push the little consumer saws made by poulan and such companies. You pay what you get for and you pay alot for the Stihl. We have 2 of them, 038 MAGNUM and MS250. The one is 20 some years old with hundreds of hours on it and it has only had a handle and gas tank replaced because of an undertemined cause. I recently backed onto it with the tractor right up to the top handle(had to back over the lower handle to get to the top handle) and bent it very slightly out of alignment but nothing bad enough to stop it from running. The other one is 2 years old and still running strong without a single problem except it stopped running but started back up without a problem.Jonsered saws also run good but I'm not sure about longetivity and reliability. I've seen a husqvarna 257? running and that thing was deafning. Was 10-15 ft away from it and had trouble hearing after that. Can't imagine being the operator!

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JT

09-07-2007 11:21:18




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to farmer boy, 09-06-2007 20:00:15  
Farmer Boy,
I can tell by your comments that you do not wrk on them for a living as I do, you are an end user the 038 and 028 are by far the best chain saws Stihl has ever built, take care of it, you have a real saw. The MS250, in 5 years, unless it is a limbing saw with minumal use, you will not be so boastful of after you use it for a while and have to pay to get the fuel lines repalced a couple of times.
Jim

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Mr. Bob

09-06-2007 07:24:40




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to JT, 09-06-2007 06:56:49  
As I see it Stihls are the "John Deeres" of chain saws; ABSOLUTELY as good as any of the rest, but are over priced and over rated. I speak from experience with both them and others the same as I've operared 2 cylinder JDs and other makes of tractors of that era. When I was growing up on the farm, I constantly heard neighbors bragging about JD's and at the same time deriding others, especially Fords and ACs. I've been using a 2N Ford for the past 27 years, and would in no way trade it for a JD "B" of the same vintage and hp. And as I've said, I've used both.

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Farmall Joe

09-06-2007 15:09:50




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to Mr. Bob, 09-06-2007 07:24:40  
shindaiwa (japanese i know) 357 top handle, its real small but super lite power ful for size and extreamly comfortable to use. if you want to cut down big trees go w/ husky (xp the best) there the farmall of chainsaws, underrated but will kick the crap out of a john deere



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TomTex

09-06-2007 06:45:52




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 Re: Need 16 chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
From your description its Echo number one choice, Stihl number two choice. Tom



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cj3b_jeep

09-06-2007 05:06:10




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
I used a Poulan "Wild thing" once, it was crap right out of the box. I'd go with Stihl (I have two of them), Huqvarna or Dolmar.



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Mr. Bob

09-06-2007 07:29:38




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to cj3b_jeep, 09-06-2007 05:06:10  
My Poulan "Wild Thing" had starting and idling problems until i had a friend of mine who used to be certified as a Poulan technician "tweak" the carb a little bit. This, along with replacing the Champion plug with Autolite made this a whole different saw. Starts good; idles good, and cuts like a "srtipped azzed ape".



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soundguy

09-06-2007 22:06:19




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to Mr. Bob, 09-06-2007 07:29:38  
My P/pro was a little finecky to start / idle.. however I found that once i used a different oil than their first oil mix bottle, that it was as you say.. a "r@ped ape".

That fist little bottle of oil mix they give you must be absolute CR@P..

Soundguy



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Ry

09-05-2007 20:22:07




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
My Stil has been real good to me. But my brother has a Shindiawa and I like it better and he won't trade me!? The Shindiawa is a little higher priced but it just feels QUALITY - not shure why but it just does. I had an Eager Beaver once too "Still Have It Hanging On The Wall" - I always wondered about that name Eager Beaver he-he! But what a piece of crap saw it was!



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Jim B. Ohio

09-05-2007 20:02:33




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
If you get anything other than a Stihl, chances are you will be to wore out from getting the thing started to cut any wood. I've learned from experience. Jim



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Roy Suomi

09-05-2007 19:34:44




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
I bought a new Echo 346 on Ebay a couple of months ago..I am tickled with this saw..Plus it has a 5 year consumer warranty...I'd buy another in a minute..A buddy of mine has a landscaping company , he uses Echo for all the small power tools and Scag mowers for lawns..Regular price for Echo 346 is $ 225.00....I got mine delivered to my door for 178.00....



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Charles (in GA)

09-05-2007 18:52:02




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
Sthil is a good saw, highly overrated. I have a Sthil pole saw. Discovered you must buy parts thru a local dealer. Sthil dis-enfrachises any dealer that sells parts on the internet or mail order. Kinda ties your hands and makes things expensive.

You said you want a good quality saw that is LIGHT WEIGHT, that would be an Echo. Never, ever, heard anyone complain about an Echo product.

Charles



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RobMD

09-05-2007 18:49:44




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
Stihl.



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msb

09-05-2007 18:16:56




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Stihl



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Mr. Bob

09-05-2007 18:23:09




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to msb, 09-05-2007 18:16:56  
Stihl makes a very good saw; however after having run both them and Poulan, I cansee very little difference in their performence one way or the other. Biggest difference is the price and the "acclaim".



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Mr. Bob

09-05-2007 18:14:33




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to fern(Mi), 09-05-2007 18:09:46  
The Poulan "Wild Thing" is a strongrunning saw with a 16" bar on it, and is not overly expensive. I have one and its easy to servive and change chains on. It'll dig its way thru a peice of 18" red oak right quickly for a lighter duty saw.



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suptscottyb

09-05-2007 18:48:41




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to Mr. Bob, 09-05-2007 18:14:33  
Agreed with mr bob. Stihl if your gonna feed yourself with it. Craftsman or such if you cut the occasional tree. Been runnin' an older echo the fatherlaw gave me for 10 yrs. Hard to get chain for it. So I guess I would suggest to see what size and pitch the chain is and compare to what is most common at wall mart, so you can get cheap chain....



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woodbutcher

09-05-2007 18:46:51




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 Re: Need 16� chainsaw recommendation in reply to Mr. Bob, 09-05-2007 18:14:33  
Stihl.



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