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OT E-BAY QUESTION

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lenray

08-28-2007 18:05:16




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Have a question here for you folks.
Say I am willing to bid 700.00 for an item and I put that in as my highest bid.
If another bidder goes to say 550.00 does E-Bay bid me in at 560.00 at the end of the sale or do they put me in as the winner at 700.00 and the winner with the next highest bid at 550.00 I guess this is where E-Bay does the bidding for you.
Thanks for any help.




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Elmer's grassman

09-01-2007 17:52:14




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to lenray, 08-28-2007 18:05:16  
Nolan's explanation is perfect.



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Jrry

08-29-2007 11:21:18




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to lenray, 08-28-2007 18:05:16  
I'm not sure if it still works like this but a few years ago Iput in a bid on an item. The bidding was very low and I put in what I would be willing to pay for it. The bid jumped up to the sellers reserve and I was then the high bidder. My bid was well above the next highest bid. I'm not sure how others say it doesn't work this way unless they know what the reserve is and they bid more than that amount.
Jerry

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Nolan

08-29-2007 11:02:23




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to lenray, 08-28-2007 18:05:16  
Scenario 1
Item has no reserve.
Current high bid is $400. You bid with a maximum of $600. Bid jumps to $405, with you as the highest bidder. You"ve out bid him.

Scenario 2
Like scenario 1, but the current highest bidder set his maximum to $500. You bid, it jumps to $505, with you as the highest bidder. You"ve out bid him.

Scenario 3
Like scenario 1, but the current highest bidder set his maximum to $1,000. You bid, it jumps to $605, with him as the highest bidder. He"s out bid you.

Scenario 4
Item has a reserve.
Item has a reserve of $400. There are no bids. You bid up to $600. Your bid will automatically jump to $400, meeting the reserve, and listing you as current highest bidder. Reserve is met the moment it"s met, not at the end of the auction.

Scenario 5
Item has a reserve of $400. There are no bids. You bid up to $200. Your bid will be entered at the opening price, probably $1. It will not be bumped to the maximum you were willing to bid because your maximum is below the reserve.

Scenario 6
Item has a reserve of $400. Current highest bid is $200. Highest bidder has entered maximum of $300. You bid a maximum of $350. Bidding will be bumped to $305, just exceeding the highest bidders limit, listing you as highest bidder, but with reserve not met.

Scenario 7
Item has a reserve of $400. Current highest bid is $200. Highest bidder has entered maximum of $300. You bid a maximum of $500. Bidding will be bumped to $400, listing you as highest bidder, meeting reserve.

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Coloken

08-29-2007 06:17:37




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to lenray, 08-28-2007 18:05:16  
Don't make it so compicated. If you place a large bid, you will get it at one incriment over the other highest bid. If there is a reserve, you get it at the reserve price. You don't bid against yourself. Course if your bid is lower than others or the reserve price, you are out.



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Stan in Oly, WA

08-29-2007 07:55:59




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to Coloken, 08-29-2007 06:17:37  
Hi Ken,

"If your maximum bid is the first to meet or exceed the reserve price, the effective bid displayed will automatically be raised to the reserve price."

The above sentence was copied and pasted directly from the eBay help page (I added the quotation marks.) I was mistaken. That doesn't explain how onefarmer has had it fail to work that way many times, as he puts it.

All the best, Stan

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Coloken

08-29-2007 08:46:23




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 08-29-2007 07:55:59  
Stan, Don't understand that one either. I thought that E-bay paid no attention to the reserve until the auction was over--then checked and raised your bid to meet it, if it was large enough. It appears that I was wrong. Bought a lot of things from E-bay but never got into the reserve price thing. If what one farmer says happened, and his bid was larger that the reserve, then E-bay goofed.

Best advice I can give to newbes to keep it simple is to wait until a minute or so and bid what it is worth to you. That way if you are out bid you can walk away happy. Don't try to steal it. I myself do a lot more complicated. Just don't loose some thing you wanted and would have bid like 100 dollars for but bid 60 and got snipped out of it.

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Bob

08-29-2007 09:04:41




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to Coloken, 08-29-2007 08:46:23  
Stan,

If your bid meets or exceeds the reserve, the bid amount will jump to the reserve amount, and the "disclaimer" in the auction will switch from "reserve NOT met" to "reserve MET".



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730virgil

08-28-2007 19:26:08




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to lenray, 08-28-2007 18:05:16  
what happens when you have a reserve of $ 600 on item your max is $700 and next highest bid is $550? will your bid be raised to $600 and get the item?



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Blue3992 (N Illinois)

08-28-2007 20:15:29




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to 730virgil, 08-28-2007 19:26:08  
I'm pretty sure that in 730virgils example, your bid would instantly be raised up to $600. If your max bid is higer than the reserve, it immediately brings you up to the reserve.



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onefarmer

08-29-2007 07:02:55




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to Blue3992 (N Illinois), 08-28-2007 20:15:29  
Ebay will not up your bid to the reserve price. I've lost many an item because no one helped raise the bid up to the reserve.

If the reserve price is $100 and you bid $500, Starting bid is $5 and no one else bids you will be stuck at $5 and lose the item due to not meeting the reserve. Done it many times.



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John (MO)

08-29-2007 14:35:55




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to onefarmer, 08-29-2007 07:02:55  
It sure doesn`t work that way for me. If my bid meets or exceeds the reserve set then my bid will jump to cover the reserve and I will get the item if no one out bids me. If my bid does not cover the reserve then it will climb as others bid.

How is it you even know what the reserve is if you or someone else doesn`t cover it?



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onefarmer

08-30-2007 06:24:57




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to John (MO), 08-29-2007 14:35:55  
Are you sure the seller didn't use a differant username (shill bidding) and up your bid himself? There are times I have shill bidded myself to get to the reserve. I haven't lost an item due to not meeting reserve for a while so they may have chaged how it works I suppose.



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TomH in PA

08-29-2007 17:40:52




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to John (MO), 08-29-2007 14:35:55  
"How is it you even know what the reserve is if you or someone else doesn`t cover it? "

In that case, you don't know what the reserve was. The seller didn't want to show his hand; otherwise someone might try to slip in a bid right at the reserve price when the auction closes. Instead he's hoping several people will guess and drive the price up a little higher.

If the seller doesn't care if bidders know the minimum price he will set a minimum opening bid (which everybody can see) rather than a reserve (which is hidden).

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Stan in Oly, WA

08-28-2007 19:51:14




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to 730virgil, 08-28-2007 19:26:08  
Hi Virgil,

I'm not 100% sure on this (maybe 95% sure) but I don't think a seller's reserve affects the bidding at all. In other words, the bidding proceeds exactly as though there were no reserve and at the end of the auction, the item sells only if the reserve price has been met.

Interesting question, actually. I keep trying to think of some evidence from my experience to support my answer, and realize I don't have any.

All the best, Stan

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Cliff (VA)

08-29-2007 05:43:49




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 08-28-2007 19:51:14  
Stan,

As I understand it, if at the end of the auction the reserve has not been met AND the high bidders maximum bid is above the reserve, ebay will up the bid to the reserve.

It makes sense if you think about it. The bidder was willing to pay the reserve and the seller will take no less.

Cliff (VA)



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Charles (in GA)

08-28-2007 19:19:52




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to lenray, 08-28-2007 18:05:16  
Ebay bids for you instantly. If you placed a max bid of $700 and the bidding is $540 (assuming $10 increments, I cannot remember right now) and a buyer comes in and places a max of $550, then Ebay will instantly jump your bid to $560 and wait for the next bidder.

Best thing you can do is go to the Ebay homepage, and in the upper RH corner is a menu bar, buy, sell, my ebay, etc. put the cursor on BUY and a drop down box appears and the second item is HELP WITH BIDDING & BUYING, if you select this you get a online course from Ebay university you can go thru, it explains the whole process and gives you screens to show you what is happening in their example.

Indeed, find out about sniping, its a necessary evil to keep from getting taken by sellers with second and third accounts that bid up their own items. I think the term is "sheels".

Charles

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Bernoulli/OR

08-28-2007 19:01:08




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to lenray, 08-28-2007 18:05:16  
I recommend that you do a search for "auction sniper". Read and learn. Can save you money on eBay.



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Frank in Florida

08-28-2007 18:11:50




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to lenray, 08-28-2007 18:05:16  
You will go out at $560.00.
Frank



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JoeK(WI)

08-28-2007 21:46:43




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 Re: OT E-BAY QUESTION in reply to Frank in Florida, 08-28-2007 18:11:50  
As I understand it your maximum $700 bid is held by ebay and your"virtual" bid is increased by one"increment" over any lessor bidders until they surpass $700 at which time your $700 bid joins the bids list below the current high bidder.
At close of sale,if no reserve had been set by seller,and next lower bidder than you at$700 is say $500,then you win the item for 1 bid increment over next lower bidder,So if bid increments were $10,you'd win at $510 or if increments were $100 your win would cost you $600..... I think,because I've often had to bid"increments"repeatedly to"root out"the amount a "max bidder" had offered.

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