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Bud in NC

08-15-2007 04:08:56




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We're in the process of leaving NC. We've bought a house near Beckley, WV. Last week on the days it was 103�, 104� and 104� here it was in the 80�'s there. We know there's going to be snow. I need to know what to look for in a snow blower. Our new (to us, anyway) drive is long and fairly steep. The area in front the shop is gravel.
Any pointers on what to look for, what to avoid, should I run tire chains or snow tires on it, etc. All the usual idiot level questions. What brands to look at, what to avoid, etc.
Thanks for any info!

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old gray beard

08-18-2007 16:51:35




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
AL GORE has left the room . Before he left he mentioned that you may want to check your elevation and look into sandbags rather than a snow blower . to be on the safe side after you have moved , check out what your neibors are useing and follow suite . Idont beleive it will be a big problem, you may be better served looking at stand -by generators , and cotracting your snow removal.



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Bob - MI

08-18-2007 07:18:40




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
I have found that a tractor mounted blower is great. I have a 1/4 mile paved drive here in West Michigan and I use a 20hp tractor with a 40" blower on it. It's great and makes quick work out of the cleaning chores. We get 100"~130" of snow annually.

In addition, I have a Honda 621 single stage that we use for detailing the walks and up close to the house. It's about 12 years old now and I have never had a problem with it.

I would suggest that you look at the local equipment dealers and get their opinions. Ariens and Toro are good brands. Honda is great but expensive, anything made by MTD will be cheaper but they are lightly made. They use plastic bushings instead of bearings and you will learn to work on them a bit. So far as chains You can see if you can get by without and buy them later if needed. You may also want to consider a used machine (sometimes a good buy as a trade-in at a dealer) to allow you to kind of get the feel for things.

You may want to talk to the neighbors and see what they have been using. Some areas really don't get that much snow (it's a relative thing)and you may not have to invest in a monster machine. Folks around here are about split on doing their own clearing and hiring it out.

Since you are on gravel make sure that the skids are set up a bit especially at first before the ground freezes. These things chuck rocks as well as they move snow. After the ground freezes you can drop the skids a bit and get a cleaner cut. Don't throw towards your house, car, barn, or anything with glass you don't want broken (how does he know this????)

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Oldmax

08-17-2007 04:51:21




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
Forget the snow blower and just buy an old tractor should be able to find a MF 135 or something about that size for a good price in that area . If you look around . but I would recommend a later model 4wd with good brakes in that area . I live in Huntington & I have a 1715 NH 27 HP 4WD that serves me well to mow farm and get in fire wood , Split it & etc . I am not telling you to buy a NH but I have been happy with mine .

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old art

08-16-2007 20:39:11




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
how come with a snow blower you are always blowing into the wind nomatter whitch way you go



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Midwest redneck

08-16-2007 09:12:19




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
I have a Simplicity 8HP, cost me $1000, I have used it 5 times in 3 years. I am in Michigan. I use the Snow thrower for heavy snow, I use my Polaris with a blade on it for snow under 8-7". Get a model that is heavy duty, like Cub Cadet, Simplicity or Airens.



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Midwest redneck

08-16-2007 09:12:12




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
I have a Simplicity 8HP, cost me $1000, I have used it 5 times in 3 years. I am in Michigan. I use the Snow thrower for heavy snow, I use my Polaris with a blade on it for snow under 8-7". Get a model that is heavy duty, like Cub Cadet, Simplicity or Airens.



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Nolan

08-16-2007 06:34:23




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
110V electric start is wonderfull. I never want to go backwards now that I've used this in the winter. Standard on all but the cheapest of units these days. I do not miss yanking the cord of an engine that refuses to start in the cold.

Two stage, as mentioned.

Wheels vs track. I've had both, I much prefer wheels. Turning with tracks is a bear, as is freewheeling. You don't get miraculous traction with tracks either, the wheels do just fine.

I've done just fine with 5 hp on various machines. Yes, when it's several feet deep I have to slow down. But that's a function of the hopper capacity far more than engine power. But I certainly like lots of power.

Width. 20 vs 40, etc. Doesn't really matter, it's just a few inches difference. I wouldn't bother to go hunting extra wide, I don't think it's worth the extra money.

I thought the headlight was a silly gimick, until I used one that had it. Pretty handy at night.

I do not like the modern wheel drive controls on almost all machines today. It's external on the back, with things engaging under a flat leaf spring. Quite prone to getting stuck with snow and not engaging the drive. Seems a pretty universal problem, as everyone complains about it.

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Stumpalump

08-15-2007 19:40:22




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
I have a 17hp DR brush hog with the snow blower attachment. It works but I wound't recomend it for snow. It cuts brush like a beast and it's great at that! I live in Colorado and we get the snow. I mainly use my 8N tractor with chains on the tires and the rear blade. I use the trip bucket for pushing some and digging drifts. I do use the snow blower when it's less than 8" deep because I can do it pretty fast but any deeper and it's tractor time. I would set your tractor up for snow removal first before I would buy a snow blower. You will allways get an occationally deep or wet snow that the blower won't handle and you will still need the tractor for those times.

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Bud in NC

08-15-2007 18:40:20




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
Thanks for all the info, guys! Fawteen, it was good to hear from you again, too! I'll bet there ain't too many on this board now who remember what you're handle "Fawteen" started as.... Guess I'm an official old f*rt, huh?
Thanks for all the info again, guys!



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Ralph - Ohio

08-15-2007 18:28:50




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
I've never used a snow blower but have heard that you DON'T want caterpillar type tracks on it as was the rage a few years ago. The tracks go OK in the snow but you can't free-wheel the thing to push it around which is a big disadvantage.



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Fawteen

08-15-2007 13:04:30




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
I live in Maine and can recognize a snowblower 2 times out of 3 if the light is good...";^)

8 horse minimum for sure, and don't get carried away with the cut width. 20-24" is about all an 8 horse wants to handle.

Two stage absolutely.

SiL had one with tracks, I wasn't impressed. I run Snow Hogs on mine and go anyplace he does.

nless you're going with the Big Buck Unit, get a generic MTD. Most of the others are the same unit anyway, just painted and marked up.

Normally, I wouldn't pizz on a Tecumseh if it was on fire, but I can not fault the Snow King on my blower. Cold-blooded as heck, you want it HOT before you start blowing snow with it, but other than that it has been fine. Starts reliably runs well when warm.

Unless you're going to get a LOT more snow than I think you are, you'll be fine with a low end unit.

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Spook

08-16-2007 02:18:48




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Fawteen, 08-15-2007 13:04:30  
I have a John Deere 28 in blower, 2 stage, with a Tecumseh Snow King on it. 11 hp. In Michigan, some years I don't even fire it up.



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fepo69

08-15-2007 09:36:41




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
Up here in Montreal Canada, I'd say Honda, pricey but it keeps it's value, fully built with bearings, dependable Honda engine, easy starting, no need for electric starter, unless you like bells and whistles.



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buickanddeere

08-15-2007 08:40:49




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
Have you considered a tractor mounted snowblower? The walk behinds have trouble in wet snow or on hard pack where vehicles have driven. Every winter hospital ER rooms deal with missing fingers and mauled hands from operators cleaning out discharge chutes. The occasional mangled foot & leg too from augurs.



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Mike M

08-17-2007 07:15:23




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to buickanddeere, 08-15-2007 08:40:49  
Yep; Get a tractor mounted one, that way instead of being mauled it can just chew you up and spit you out !



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markiz41

08-15-2007 05:22:29




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to Bud in NC, 08-15-2007 04:08:56  
Bud,

Get a 2-stage model, at least 8 horse. Depending on how steep your driveway is, you may want to look into tracks as opposed to wheels. For gravel areas, adjust the scooper way up if you value your windows.



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JoeK(WI)

08-15-2007 05:40:44




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to markiz41, 08-15-2007 05:22:29  
The newer Snow Hog tires pretty much eliminate the need for chains except on hard ice.I agree with "2 stage,8hp+".Living in NW WI,snowblowers are somewhat of a hobby of mine :).If I were to tout a brand,barring expense I"d go with Ariens,Simplicity,Troy/Cub.Sears were both MTD and Murray built a couple yrs back,unknown if still are MTDs(Murray is dead),were decent but lighter units.The Tecumseh SnowKing engines are almost universal and serve well for years(don"t let em sit with fuel in em over the off season) On my gravel drive,I set the cutter bar about 3/8" above the skids,until I get a packed surface,to keep from throwing all the gravel on the lawn.

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MarkWV

08-15-2007 13:58:23




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to JoeK(WI), 08-15-2007 05:40:44  
Bud,
I live in Cool Ridge, about 10 miles from Beckley, we have avg snows most times but occasional heavy snow from lake effects, these mountains squeeze rest of moisture out!! I have gravel drive on one lane paved road, use Ford 640 with 7foot blade, works fast, if you havae enough land to justify old tractor it will pay for itself with other attachments, Mark (town southeast of Beckley gives lemonade away at town square on days it gets over 90)

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Bud in NC

08-15-2007 18:32:59




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 Re: Need snow blower info from experts in reply to MarkWV, 08-15-2007 13:58:23  
Hey, Neighbor!!!! The house we bought is on Mt View Rd in Cool Ridge!
I'm trying to convince SWMBO that we need to get another tractor. I sold my old AC D17 NF Series 1 when we sold our place in NC. It took about 1/2 acre to turn it around - no power steering except me.
I kept my scrape blade but I don't have anything to put it on right now.
We're going to be headed up with another load Saturday. That should just about the finish the house stuff. Then the shop stuff - THAT's gonna be the hard part. I've already figured out that my shop doesn't have anything in it that ain't heavy! I might need it one day.....then again, it could be paybacks to my son whos gonna have to clean all this junk out, too!
Our dial up provider here in our temporary quarters decided to change the numbers tonight so I may be off line until Monday when Sudden Link is supposed to hook us up but shoot me an email!

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