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Steve Bogusta

06-08-2001 17:56:25

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Does anyone know if I can tow my John Deere 350B Dozer with an F150?? The weight of the machine is around 11,000 or 5 1/2 tons. I'm looking at some tag along trailers , but don't know if she'll pull..... The truck has the 5.0 engine.Should I look into a 5th Wheel?
THANKS for any info Steve

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RMD

06-09-2001 19:48:42

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

6,000 lbs. is about tops for a F-150. I don't know about where you are, but most places in the US, a trailer over 10,000 lbs. requires a Class A CDL - same license as for tractor-trailers.

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Robert Gallahan

06-10-2001 14:59:47

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Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to RMD, 06-09-2001 19:48:42

I agree with most of the other replies on this subject. You'd probably be best off with a 1 ton truck and a gooseneck trailer.

I've pulled over 6 tons of hay across Rabbit Ears pass from Steamboat Springs to Denver with my F250 HD Diesel but you'd be pulling a little more than that. Get the right stuff to do the job and pay attention to safety, proper maintenance, etc. Yes, it's not cheap, but you won't regret spending the money. It's a lot more comfortable to drive down the road with the right equipment.

As others have suggested, do check into the laws about towing this big a load in your state. In Colorado, the line is drawn at 20,000 lbs. GCVW for farm trucks (no special license.) Also remember to use adequate tie-downs; Colorado requires ones which are rated for twice the weight of the load.

If in doubt, call your State Highway Police department or a trailer dealer. They'll be able to tell you the minimum requirements for your area.

Good luck shopping for that new truck!

Bob G.

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paul

06-10-2001 00:42:17

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Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to RMD, 06-09-2001 19:48:42

As I said below I agree too much for a 150 to pull.

Here in Minnesota if you farm, you can tow about anything if you stay under 30 mph. See a lot of 300bu wagons behind 3/4 pickups. Seems to work, but people do keep it slow when loaded.

--->Paul

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Dave in Mo

06-09-2001 19:03:32

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

My 94 F150 has the 5.0 inline six. This truck is rated at 3700 lbs towing capacity with the 5 speed manual transmission. It is rated that low to prevent wrapping up the crankshaft on downshifting. I will not tow anything heavier than the 8N with it. I haul my A/C WD with my brother's heavier truck because that tractor weighs 4000 lbs by itself. DO NOT TAKE ANY RISKS. Rent, beg, borrow the right truck and trailer.

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ferrell

06-09-2001 09:38:35

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

steve, towing the 350b with your f150 might be a problem if you, the tranmissionn might cost you more than trading up to three quart ton or even a a ton ,one of main problems you,might is not get going BUT STOPPING ON ANY GRADE!

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sammy the RED

06-09-2001 09:34:06

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

You may also need a CDL to pull that much weight.

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scott3020

06-09-2001 07:42:47

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

By now if you havent had second thoughts about it you should. I have 92 F150. I pull a 8x18 bumper hitch hitch with max trailer weight of 7,000 lbs. HOWEVER the trailer itself weights 2000. My truck is only suppose to pull 5500. with 500 on the hitch. Check the Manuel or even take just your truck and trailer to the nearest weight station and have it checked compare to sticker on door or manuel for what your gross weight should be. Im shopping around for an OLD 3/4 or 1 ton that wont cost me much to tax just to do my pulling when I need the extra beef. Keep the new truck for work etc. my two cents.

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Dean

06-09-2001 03:49:29

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

You're kidding right? Look in the owner's manual or the driver's door placard!

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Ray,In

06-08-2001 21:45:54

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

Listen to these folks! All of them are right, plus think about this. If you are involved in a crash, the first thing the insurance companies will do is inspect your rig. If you are overweight they won't pay, and the other guys insurance co. will send their legal dept. after everything you have.

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bbott

06-08-2001 21:16:24

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

You'll need a heavy-duty 3/4 ton as a minimum...
1 ton would be better. Towing 12,000+ lbs with an F-150 is looking for trouble.

I'd suggest a Ford Powerstroke Diesel or Dodge Cummins Turbo Diesel. they are the only trucks with the size and power you need that get good enough fuel economy to keep you out of the poorhouse.

I get from 17 to 22 mpg out of my 4x4 Powerstroke..expect about 12 to 14 towing.

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Junkman

06-08-2001 19:50:15

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

Don't even think about it !!! You may get it going, but what about stopping (especially if some idiot pulls out in front of you)? The trailer you would need would weigh in around 4000 pounds. Get a bigger truck !
John

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Keith

06-08-2001 18:26:11

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Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-08-2001 17:56:25

I have a 93 F-150 4x4 supercab with the 5.0 engine and 3.55 rear end. It's rated to tow 6700 pounds and I've towed quite a few things with it since I bought it in 93, however I wish I had gotten more engine. I pull a JD A that weighs 4000 pounds on a trailer which weighs 2000 pounds. I'll often also haul a small hit-n-miss engine or two which I figure puts me at or just over the limit. It gets the job done but it doesn't have much power to spare. I live toward the western end of Maryland and we've got some pretty good hills to deal with. The hills are where the weight becomes a real issue and not just to get it going. Stopping also becomes an issue. If your dozer weighs 11,000 pounds figure the trailer that will carry it is probably going to weigh over 2,000 pounds itself. My trailer is a Hudson bumper pull with a GVW of 10,000 pounds and it weighs 2,000 itself. So you need a truck which will pull at least 13,000 pounds. I would also recommend the gooseneck/fifth wheel trailer. My horse trailer is a gooseneck and having the tongue weight over the axle is more stable and provides better steering control that the bumper pulls. Also most bumper hitches are not rated to handle the type of load you need to pull. In summary I would not try to pull anywhere near 10,000 pounds with an F-150. You'll need a bigger engine and brakes, lower rear end, and the heaver frame of the F-350 or bigger.

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paul

06-08-2001 21:17:43

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Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Keith, 06-08-2001 18:26:11

The DOT will take it all away if you exceed the GVW by that much! Need a bigger truck.

--->Paul

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Sage

06-09-2001 15:12:54

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Re: Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to paul, 06-08-2001 21:17:43

To haul that 350 you have two options. First is use a 3/4 ton or larger truck pulling a gooseneck. Second, if you want to pull a tag trailer, you would have to use a one ton or preferably larger truck, like a 1 and 1/2ton or larger because of the bumper weight being placed on the truck by the tag trailer.

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John Ne.

06-08-2001 23:16:06

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Re: Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to paul, 06-08-2001 21:17:43

We had a customer that routinely pulled a very large bobcat on a large all steel trailer for his landscaping business, with a 95 F-150. This was in Omaha, which is full of very steep streets. It seemed to handle it well, except he burnt out the front brakes about every 5,000 miles, and he shelled the ring and pinion at 12,000, and the bumper mount hitch cracked and twisted. And of course he wanted it all taken care of under warranty. John Nebr.

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Mac

06-09-2001 11:47:23

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to John Ne., 06-08-2001 23:16:06

Man, I'd sure think about a 1 ton at least for this job.

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steve bogusta

06-09-2001 20:09:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Mac, 06-09-2001 11:47:23

Thanks for the info. Folks. I guess I'll look around for a 1 ton mason dump or something. I don't want to get killed or hurt anyone else.Would an F350 HD Pickup handle the task?

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VaTom

06-10-2001 10:58:14

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to steve bogusta, 06-09-2001 20:09:04

Hi Steve, now that you know what NOT to do, I'll offer my solution. My crawler's a little larger and I wanted 4x4. Guess you know what that costs. I bought an ex-army deuce and a half from a dealer. Prices started at $4500 ready to inspect and with 20-30k miles, hardtop and winch extra. Not so comfy to ride in but sure gets the work done. And safely. Power steering by armstrong. You'd want to check on insurance and licensing costs and if your state requires CDL. Mine doesn't and I run about $650/yr for the two with a special plate. Great solution for me. Happy shopping.

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VaTom

06-10-2001 15:10:13

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to VaTom, 06-10-2001 10:58:14

For anybody anywhere near Socorro, N.M., there's a real interesting auction this week. Trucks and machinery. Too far for me to consider hauling.

Link

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rhudson

06-10-2001 10:58:13

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to steve bogusta, 06-09-2001 20:09:04

Steve,
i've been on the lookout for a towing truck. i picked up two booklets at ford sales. first is rv and trailer towing guide othr is ford pickup trucks camper loading. the first is most usefull for me. it gives towing limits on f250sd/350 at a max of about 13,000lbs higher or lower by a couple hundred pounds depending on frame length and engine.(thats fifth wheel towing not tag along) my book shown basic JD350 weight at 9000lbs, the weight of a blade and trailor is going to push (my guess) the rating of even the best f350 towing package. you need a smaller dozer. wish i had your problem.

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Steve Bogusta

06-10-2001 20:08:11

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to rhudson, 06-10-2001 10:58:13

Thanks for the info. Fellas, My Jd 350b is a pretty small dozer. When I ask around for a tow the guys usually say "Oh that's a small machine , You just need a small tag along", But they still want 250.00 to go 35 miles. I'm not useing it commercially, so I can't really afford a new package. I'm not sure if you need a CDL to pull a machine like this In P.A.?

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Red Dave

06-11-2001 06:01:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Towing with an F150 in reply to Steve Bogusta, 06-10-2001 20:08:11

In PA a CDL is required to operate any commercial motor vehicle (CMV). Generally, a CMV is a truck rated 26,001 lbs or more gross or any combination of vehicles pulling a trailer rated 10,001 lbs or more. Exceptions include "implements of husbandry" If you can haul it on a truck with a farm tag on it, you may be able to get away from the CMV designation. You don't want to get caught doing it illegally, the fines are pretty stiff.

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