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kohler 10 hp no spark update

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railhead

07-12-2007 21:06:20

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Well guys I have been out of town for work since asking about the no fire on my K241. I got in last night and pulled the flywheel for the 100th time. Looked at the magnets and they looked shiny but I brushed them with a 4 inch grinder w/wire wheel on it. Blew it off with air. Wire wheeled the deal the coil sits on. Filed the points and gapped them to .016 (AGAIN). Put flywheel back on and pulled it....FIRE! Even though the magnets looked OK , I am guessing they were not. I really believe that brushing them was the fix. possibly small small film of rust?????

Engine runs GREAT again.

BTW...if you have a dead Kohler and it is the type that you wrap a rope around and pull over and over and over and over and over.....like I did for a while, there is a easier way. I took a old Poulan chainsaw that a guy gave me years ago. He said it did not run. I messed with the carb and got it going and never used it. I took the bar and chain off it, welded a pulley on the clutch housing, (carefully so the clutch still works) and use it now for my starter for these rope wrap start engines. Just use a v belt and rev up the saw as you pull it tight. Beats wrapping the rope and pulling forever. I know if you had one of these engines tuned and used it daily the rope would be OK but I use them very rarely so the saw/starter is awesome. I thought about putting a starter from a cub cadet on it but then theres another battery to maintain so the saw seemed a little better.

A lot of BS to say THANKS for the great ideas and especally for the sanding the magnet recommendation.

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Gene Davis (Ga)

07-18-2007 14:54:40

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Re: kohler 10 hp no spark update in reply to railhead, 07-12-2007 21:06:20

Years ago the chainsaw thing with a v-belt pulley fitted onto the chain sprocket shaft were very used cranking 2 cycle mcCulloch and West Bend-Chrysler Go-Kart racing engines on methanol. The direct drive saws did not have enough power to turn them so the gear drives were needed, The McCulloch 210-G and 510-G were the favorites.

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TimV

07-14-2007 14:03:22

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Re: kohler 10 hp no spark update in reply to railhead, 07-12-2007 21:06:20

Good show, railhead! I use a drill to start a lot of my engines--turned down a piece of 1/2" square stock to fit a 3/8" drill, ground 3 flats on it to match the chuck jaws amd peened the far end a tad so the socket doesn't slip off. Put on an appropriately-sized socket (3/4" is popular) and spin it off the flywheel nut. Works best with a non-geared direct-drive drill, as you can let go of the trigger and the drill will "coast" once the engine starts, then just pull the drill off. A gear drill will (or at least can) "catch" and give your arm a good twisting--found that out the hard way! Probably not OSHA approved, but it's one of half a hundred things we all do every day that isn't OSHA approved, and somehow the human race seems to survive.....

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Chris in MD

07-13-2007 19:21:49

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Re: kohler 10 hp no spark update in reply to railhead, 07-12-2007 21:06:20

sweet idea about the chainsaw.

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Ludwig

07-14-2007 12:11:24

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Re: kohler 10 hp no spark update in reply to Chris in MD, 07-13-2007 19:21:49

A chainsaw is without a doubt a handy thing to have around. I read once where somebody recharged the battery in his truck by belting the generator (alternator wouldn't work if it was a dead flat battery) to his chainsaw. Not something I'd do often but in a pinch.

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