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Hobart stickmate 205

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Delbert

07-11-2007 08:00:58




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Are these good welders for farm use and hobby use? Would a 250 be a better choice? What about the linlon welders? Wopuld i be better off to wait for a farm sale to buy an older linclon? Thanks for your help.




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TomTex

07-12-2007 21:06:28




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 Re: Hobart stickmate 205 in reply to Delbert, 07-11-2007 08:00:58  
I would not buy anything without DC capabilities. I use DC for about everything around the farm. Tom



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135 Fan

07-11-2007 21:30:12




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 Re: Hobart stickmate 205 in reply to Delbert, 07-11-2007 08:00:58  
For basic welding it would be fine. Hobart is a good name. If you think you might be doing more welding in the future look for a better machine. If you ever get a chance to use an industrial DC welder, you will be cursing till the cows come home by themselfs, every time you go to use an inexpensive AC buzz box. Yes, there is that much of a difference. That being said, having any welder when you really need it is better than not having one in most cases. If you can find a Lincoln Idealarc 250 AC/DC, it is a premium single phase machine for medium industrial welding. A Miller Dial-arc 250 is also a good machine. A good compromise if money is tight would be a lower end AC/DC machine like a Lincoln AC225 DC 125 machine. One of the reasons farmers don't always have the best welds is because they have had to work with a less than stellar machine. My best recommendation would be to figure how much you will be using the machine now and in the future and buy the best one you can afford. It will make you a better welder. Dave

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soundguy

07-11-2007 18:23:47




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 Re: Hobart stickmate 205 in reply to Delbert, 07-11-2007 08:00:58  
i own a hobart 235ac stickmate... I have rarely found a job that HAD to be DC... I have access to a lincoln tombstone that is ac/dc at work.

I've never used 205a on my 235a machine.. For farm use.. you should be good to go..

Besides.. hobart's 'blue' on the inside anyway..

Soundguy



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Farmall MD

07-11-2007 14:13:45




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 Re: Hobart stickmate 205 in reply to Delbert, 07-11-2007 08:00:58  
Delbert, For farm and hobby, the 205 will be PLENTY. Amperage goes as the following: 3/32" rod uses about 95 amps, 1/8" rod uses about 125 amps, 5/32 rod uses about 155 amps, 3/16" rod uses about 190 amps. Farm and hobby use will rarely see a 3/16" rod. Now keep in mind I said "ABOUT". each different rod varies 5-10 amps(7018 vs. 6010, 6011 vs. 7024, and so on)

The only time you need big amps is generaly for carbon arcing. Carbon arc is great, but most farmers or hobbyers don't use it cause they got a torch. Carbon arc requires an air compressor. Anyway, you will be fine with a 205 machine. Doug N

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Stan in Oly, WA

07-11-2007 09:29:59




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 Re: Hobart stickmate 205 in reply to Delbert, 07-11-2007 08:00:58  
Hi Delbert,

That's an AC welder, isn't it? The issue of AC vs DC comes up on this forum once in awhile. I seem to be in the minority to feel that AC is satisfactory for most uses.

I own a Stickmate 235 AC/150 DC welder which I use often. There are few situations where I absolutely have to use DC rather than AC. The only valid one I can think of, in fact, is where 7018 is the only stick that will do the job. I'm not much of a fan of 7018AC, but a lot of users like it well enough. I've also read that the electrodes that run well on AC are difficult to use for out of position welding (vertical and overhead.) I keep meaning to try this to see for myself, but so far I haven't remembered to.

The stickmate seems to be built ruggedly, and Hobart has a good reputation (Miller didn't buy Hobart---another company owns them both.) Welders that have a shunt which moves in relation to the transformer to change amperage can loosen up and change settings by themselves while you're welding. The Stickmate instruction book addresses this problem, though.

205 amps should be plenty for most situations you'd encounter the way you describe using it but it probably means a shorter duty cycle than you'd have with a higher amperage machine. I figure that you can't use a stick welder much more than 80% of a ten minute period anyway, so I look at 80% as the realistic limit. My Stickmate has an 80% duty cycle at about 115 amps AC. A 205 amp AC rated one would probably be a little less. Think about whether that would be a limitation for you.

All the best, Stan

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mjbrown

07-11-2007 09:10:55




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 Re: Hobart stickmate 205 in reply to Delbert, 07-11-2007 08:00:58  
I personally have found a better welder at less money by watching the swap sheet. My first choice would be a Miller closely followed by Hobart or Lincoln. 240V AC/DC 250A should cover just about anything you will run into.



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