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Deck stain won't last.

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Stumpalump

07-09-2007 11:12:48




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I stripped it with deck stain stripper then power washed it. Then I rented a floor sander and sanded it down. Hand brushed stained it with Olimpia deck stain and after two years a lot of it is just bare wood. Is there somthing better to cover exposed wood?




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MBU

07-10-2007 21:46:15




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 Re: Deck stain won't last. in reply to Stumpalump, 07-09-2007 11:12:48  
An inexpensive paint to make is 3 parts boiled linseed oil mixed with 1 part turpentine as stated previously. The turpentine is used to help the linseed oil penetrate and will evaporate fairly quickly. If this sounds to you like a �hillbilly� concoction - it isn�t! Quality outdoor paints have this in them only at smaller proportions so the can make more money. If you don�t believe me, just look at their label.
For color and pigment add some dyes that are used for concrete. For example, if red is wanted, use iron oxide - which is what the red concrete dye is. Many other inexpensive dyes and available at your local concrete company. If you go this route remember to stir the paint often in order to keep the dye (pigment) in suspension. Some people recommend adding about 1/4 cup talc to the above mix to help keep the pigment in suspension, but I haven�t tried that.

One thing to remember is that one MUST use boiled linseed oil or this paint will never dry � well pretty darn close to never! Another caution is that linseed oil is a "drying oil" and creates heat when curing. If rags or brushes are kept in a confined space they could catch on fire.

Modern decking paints are almost 98 percent mineral spirits with the rest being pigment and suspension agents. Once the mineral spirits evaporate (which is usually in a week or so) only the pigment is left to protect the wood. Since mineral spirits cost only several dollars a gallon one can see a $30.00 gallon of paint is a rip-off and will do very little to protect. In our grandparents day �Paint Salesman� were in the same class as we put �Used Car Salesmen� today!

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LenND

07-10-2007 19:50:48




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 Re: Deck stain won't last. in reply to Stumpalump, 07-09-2007 11:12:48  
I wouldn't waste my time or money on a deck stain. The best kind made won't last more than two years. I finally put in one made of glue and who knows what BUT I never have to touch it. It turns a off white after a few years of aging. It is a bit expensive though.



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MarkB_MI

07-09-2007 20:02:27




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 Re: Deck stain won't last. in reply to Stumpalump, 07-09-2007 11:12:48  
Personally, I think staining decks is an absolute waste of time. It does nothing to improve the durability of the wood. And nothing looks worse than a stained deck that needs refinishing.

However, my wife disagrees so I do have to occasionally stain our deck. My preferred finish is Penofin. Not because it lasts, but because it penetrates into the wood so you don't have to strip it off when it comes time to refinish.

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Bernoulli/OR

07-09-2007 15:08:04




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 Re: Deck stain won't last. in reply to Stumpalump, 07-09-2007 11:12:48  
If you build another deck, build it with Trex (recycled shopping bags) or one of its competitors. Doesn't look like wood, but it should last forever with no maintenance.



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flying belgian

07-09-2007 15:06:55




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 Re: Deck stain won't last. in reply to Stumpalump, 07-09-2007 11:12:48  
linseed oil.



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Thunderr

07-09-2007 14:45:26




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 Re: Deck stain won't last. in reply to Stumpalump, 07-09-2007 11:12:48  
id oil the deck. linseed oil, maybe mixed with turpentine for best penetration. never peels, but does protect. adds little to the colour, but keeps it from rot. maybe not be the designer look, but it works well, is cheap and never peels.



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jml755

07-09-2007 13:17:21




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 Re: Deck stain won't last. in reply to Stumpalump, 07-09-2007 11:12:48  
What type of wood? I've got the best results on my Cedar deck with CW Flood's Clear (CWF). I tried their Cedar tinted and the pigment peeled after a while and I went back to the Clear. The deck is 20 years old and I do it every few years. Decks were all the rage 20 years ago because they had more character than a plain cement patio. Brick pavers came along but few people could afford the cost. My Cedar deck is showing it's age so I'm thinking of tearing it out and putting in a stamped concrete patio. They look great, but I don't know what they'll look like after 20 years of weather, seasons change, etc.

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Greg_Ky

07-09-2007 12:43:35




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 Re: Deck stain won't last. in reply to Stumpalump, 07-09-2007 11:12:48  
My Uncle uses a product called Cuprinol (sp) He says that it outlasts everything else that he has put on his cabin.HTH
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Brown Dirt Cowboy

07-09-2007 12:13:22




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 Re: Deck stain won't last. in reply to Stumpalump, 07-09-2007 11:12:48  
Stumpalump it is exposed wood out in the elements it is going to oxidize and turn crappy looking. I redo my deck every 2 or 3 yrs. I'm like you I would like to find something that lasts longer.Good luck. Tom



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