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OT: barn doors

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gobind

07-09-2007 05:27:40




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I've got this open equipment shed that I'd like to enclose during the winter to keep the snow out. The six openings are each about 9 1/2' high and about 9' between 6" X 6" posts. I tried canvas stretched around a PVC frame in a couple of the openings, they lasted one winter. Overhead doors are at least $1000 each, so I'm thinking of building some doors. It seems that hinged doors would give me better access to all the space in the shed, but sliding doors might be easier to maintain. What experience have y'all had in this area and what would you recommend?

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JTinNJ

07-12-2007 15:43:52




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to gobind, 07-09-2007 05:27:40  
I had a 40x40 open pole barn. I closed it in and built my owen sliding doors. The poles where spaced so I had 3 bays. I built a wall in the right end bay with a small door. The other 2 bays have sliders.Have to move both doors when I want to get in the left side bay.Only put up 1 track.I bolted a 2x6 to the rollers. then hung 1 1/2"x1 1/2" x1/4" angel iron from each end of the 2x6.Then evenly spaced 5 2x6 for nailers along the angel iron. For siding I used 36" roofing tin.Screwed the tin to the 2x6.It works out well.I try to use the center bay most of the time.That way I'm only moveing one of them big doors.They are 14FT wide. The only trouble with closeing in the pole barn is that now it has become a catch all.

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NE IA Dave

07-09-2007 21:32:24




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to gobind, 07-09-2007 05:27:40  
If you use Rapid Rail, do your homework first. We are requested to build alot of doors every year, and almost every time there are assumptions that for a few dollars, and a half hour all will be done. Many times when you put the math to it a moderate priced overhead door is a better deal----There is no positive way of knowing till you do the math. Overhead doors are probably going to be a little tighter than roll doors with a double track and all holes drivable. We many times can strike a deal with a overhead door company when dealing with quanity compared to the big box stores.

Without knowing your exact needs, you may want to consider roll up doors also.

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TGIN

07-09-2007 14:33:52




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to gobind, 07-09-2007 05:27:40  
How about Bi-fold doors . I`ve seen big ones in the mags. they bend in the middle when raised and the bottom meets the top . I`ve thought about trying to build some but they seem to stay on the back burner , got alot of stuff back there !!



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dds-inc

07-09-2007 10:19:07




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to gobind, 07-09-2007 05:27:40  
WHATEVER YOU DO....DON'T PUT T-111 ON YOUR DOORS.

Take it from my experience!

My doors are so warped it makes me sick to try to open them and close them, it even binds the track!!!!!



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JMS/MN

07-09-2007 08:45:26




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to gobind, 07-09-2007 05:27:40  
Do you need door access to all 6 bays? Putting wall in every other one would be much cheaper than 6 doors.



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gobind

07-09-2007 08:52:43




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to JMS/MN, 07-09-2007 08:45:26  
If I were to go with sliding doors wouldn't I have to put a wall in every other bay, or have a double track?



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paul

07-09-2007 20:14:07




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to gobind, 07-09-2007 08:52:43  
If you have a door on every bay, you need to do something different with _one_ door - or make one a wall. The rest can all slide on the same track. You just might need to push 3 doors out of your way to open that farthest door. :)

Like I said, one roll up door you use the most, & the rest sliders, run the track past the roll up door & you only need single track. All doors on the same track.

Now, this is a pain if you want access to all bays all the time, but if you want cheap doors with limited access to 3 of the bays, do it like this:

Slider rollup slider slider slider slider

Run the track across all 6 bays. You can roll the 1st door to the right for access. Use the roll up for access to the 2nd door (of leave it a wall if you don't need doors for all 6). Roll the third door to the left for access. The 2 far doors, you roll the door(s) ahead of it to the left to get to it.

Again, if you want a lot of access to all the bays, then this gets pretty busy pushing doors out of your way, so depends on your needs.

But a combo of sliders, roll up, or wall can give you pretty cheap doors on a single shared track.

--->Paul

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JMS/MN

07-09-2007 14:07:35




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to gobind, 07-09-2007 08:52:43  
For sliding doors on every bay, you would need a double track. With wall on every other bay, a single track works. Personally, I don't like National- the square track. Have some, they don't stand up like Cannonball.- but get the steel wheels, not the plastic like on lighter doors.



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msb

07-09-2007 06:53:24




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to gobind, 07-09-2007 05:27:40  
Check out National Hardware's Quick Frame hardware. Metal end frames that you fill with 2x4 s and cover with metal. I use screws to attach everything and use a 2x6 treated for the bottom girt. Doors look like they are factory made.Very strong and durable.



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paul

07-09-2007 06:44:48




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 Re: OT: barn doors in reply to gobind, 07-09-2007 05:27:40  
Do you get snow? Hinged doors are aweful in snow - lot to shovel away.

If there is a lot of roof above you sloping to this open wall, sliders are kinda miserable in snow areas as well. Don't be like dad & put a concrete trench along the whole door..... .

Everyone 'round here uses sliders & wishes they had roll-up doors.

If it were me, I'd pick the most used bay to put a roll up door on, and sliders on the rest - the track over the roll up door will give the doors someplace to park when you open them.

--->Paul

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