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Which welder to buy?

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Bopsgeech

06-02-2001 23:54:05




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Am wanting to get into welding to fabricate parts and make repairs for my 8n tractor and my 8n tractor with dearborn loader and Sherman backhoe. I also want to fabricate / repair play equipment such as a basketball goal, mini bikes and go carts for my son and also work benches and the like for my shop. Just purchased a victor torch outfit and have been making (what I think are decent welds) but, wow is it SLOW...Want to buy electric welder, but am confused about the merits of the 110v mig welders over an arc welder such as the Lincoln 225 amp ac/dc welder. I've read good things about the Hobart 135 (110v)and 230v mig welders generally, but am lost on what I really need. 110v convenience is hard to overlook, but, putting in 230v service to my shop isn't that big of a deal either. Based on above project criteria, what should I buy? Thanks for taking time to reply.

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Will

06-09-2001 20:55:41




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 Re: Which welder to buy? in reply to Bopsgeech, 06-02-2001 23:54:05  
I have a Hobart 175. It is a 220volt machine, and I run C25 gas most of the time. Welding 1/4 inch in a single pass is no problem, and it can be turned down far enough to do auto sheet metal. It is a bit cheaper than the Miller both in price and construction. I use it nearly every week, and it works great. The Hobart comes with the gas regulator, the Miller does not. Cyberweld.com seems to have the best price around. Also visit the Hobart website, they have a good welding discussion forum.

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Ford Man

06-04-2001 20:24:32




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 Re: Which welder to buy? in reply to Bopsgeech, 06-02-2001 23:54:05  
I have a Miller AC/DC welder for the big stuff and a Miller XP-130 110 volt mig for thinner welding .

I had a Miller AC welder for years and finally traded up to an AC/DC unit about a year ago . It is at my Dad's shop because I do not have a shop yet . I keep the mig welder at my house for light repairs .

To give you an example , I bent two panels on the back of my bushog beyond repair . Rather than load up the bushog and haul it to my Dad's house , I put my Mig welder and generator on the back of my truck and drove down to the country right to the bushog . Was able to use my grinder with cutoff wheel to cutoff the old sides and weld on the new ones I made at work .

I made the panels out of 1/8" steel and the bushog metal is just a little bit thinner , so you might as well say that I welded 1/8" thick in one pass .

I ran my welder wide open and pretty much nonstop until I was done . Now this welder is supposed to have a 10% duty cycle , but it never tripped the internal overload . I did use shielding gas instead of the flux cored wire . You will find that you get better penetration and a better looking weld with the gas .

The Hobart machine you are looking at is more or less the same machine as my Miller . Miller makes both of them but does cut a few corners on the Hobart . The Miler is about $100 more and probably worth it in the long run .

You might want to look for TSC to have another sale . They were offering the Hobart for $398 .

Hope this helps a little bit .

Ford Man

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bill

06-03-2001 20:35:13




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 Re: Which welder to buy? in reply to Bopsgeech, 06-02-2001 23:54:05  
Do what I did, buy the lincoln ac/dc and never look back. Add 40 ft. of leed by cutting the lines about a foot out of the machine and attach tweeco connectors for the leed footage.. I weld everything with it and it has plenty of power for the average farm/fabrication and repair projects.



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Rod MI

06-03-2001 19:32:49




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 Re: Which welder to buy? in reply to Bopsgeech, 06-02-2001 23:54:05  
Bopsgeech I would suggest you rent a welder before you buy one I have a 100amp mig and it is pure junk need more amps.



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walt

06-03-2001 07:09:07




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 Re: Which welder to buy? in reply to Bopsgeech, 06-02-2001 23:54:05  
If you anticipate any thick welding, greater than 1/4", go with the 220. But judging from the equipment you mentioned. I would have to lean to 220. I have a Hobart 135 and extremely pleased with the results, with C25 mix.



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