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Hydraulic jack-12ton

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Will

06-01-2001 14:40:10




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I have a 12ton hydraulic jack that will niether raise or of course go down. I have check the level of the fluid by removing the side plug and the level seems ok. I also removed the the release valve and pumped the pump up and down while observing the fluid in the cavity from where I removed the release screw and the fluid in the release screw cavity rose and fell as I did that. After repalcing the release screw I then physically pulled up the cylinder and let it go and the cylinder would go down but not return all the way to the bottom. Hoping if closing or opening the release valve while doing this it would cure the problem but it was the same. Can anyone help me repair this. Is there a site where I might check out the basics of hydraulic jacks? Thank you.
Will

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Skinner

06-03-2001 18:48:39




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 Re: Hydraulic jack-12ton in reply to Will, 06-01-2001 14:40:10  
there usually are 2 balls, the one under the small pump piston is a check valve (ball & Seat), there normally is another one that is under the release screw. If the ball is missing under the release (bleed) screw it will do the same thing as you described. If the check ball is stuck under the pump, it will also cause the same problem. I loaned my new jack to a friend about 2 years ago and it worked fine when he took it, and ofcourse I did not test it when it came back. Grabbed the jack last weekend and it did exactly as you described, took it apart and the check ball was missing (now I know it didn't fall out on its own). Found an 1/8" steel ball, put it in and I was back in business. Doubt I'll loan my "buddy" anything anymore.

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Alvin

06-02-2001 10:32:13




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 Re: Hydraulic jack-12ton in reply to Will, 06-01-2001 14:40:10  
If you can not repair it yoursely, don't even think about about taking it to a repair shop. It will cost more to repair than to buy a new one. I found that out the expensive way..



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Zira

06-02-2001 19:11:01




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 Re: Re: Hydraulic jack-12ton in reply to Alvin, 06-02-2001 10:32:13  
I have repaired a number of floor & bottle jacks (simple things for simple minds). I generally pay $10-$17 for a seal/valve/gasket kit for a bottle jack, and $20-$55 for a floor jack (usually <$30). Add in some labor & you see why it is not worth your while to pay someone to repair a $20 bottle or $60 floor jack. You also see why there are few professional grade & no consumer grade jacks made in the USA - even Lincoln (which owns Hein Werner & Blackhawk, among others) has moved offshore. Unless you have a profesional grade, US made jack, throw them away & buy another. After all, a billion Chinese have to earn a living too.

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Mark Kw

06-01-2001 17:23:49




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 Re: Hydraulic jack-12ton in reply to Will, 06-01-2001 14:40:10  
Sounds to me like the check ball is stuck. You need to remove the pump arm and the retainer nut on the pump shaft, this will allow you to remove the pump shaft. There should be a spring and steel ball under the pump shaft housing which should also unscrew from the base of the jack (depends upon brand and style as to where this is located).

If this ball sticks in the closed position, it will not allow the pump to build pressure on the cylinder rod because it cannot draw fluid from the reservoir (the ball allows the oil to flow only in one direction). You will still see the fluid flowing through the release screw but all you are doing is moving the small amount around that is trapped in the pump itself.

The most common cause of the sticking ball is rust if the jack is not used often. If the ball and or ball seat and or spring is damaged from rust, throw the jack away and get a new because it will no longer be safe to support a load. If the ball is just gunked up with crud, you can clean it with a rag and some clean jack oil and re-install the parts. While you have it apart, drain all the old oil and replace it with new after putting the rest of the jack back together.

Some jacks use a floating piston or piston and spring instead of a ball and spring for the check valve. You will find the same similar set-up as above except you have to ensure that you replace the piston exactly the same direction as it was removed.

In either case, if anything looks to be damaged from rust or dirt, replace the jack. Getting hurt or killed to save $50 on a jack is not a good thing.

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