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Jiles

06-28-2007 14:01:23




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I was out with my backhoe, in the woods next to the road, cleaning up my property. I started digging around an old tree stump and I saw a 2 foot long copperhead. Normally, I NEVER kill a venimous snake, but this one was about 100 feet from my home. Had it been non-venemous, I would have left it alone. I have six grandchildren that frequently play on my property and I am concerned. Since I didn't know where the snake went, I was sure it went to the hollow stump. I threw about one quart of gasonine on the stump and out it came. Shot it with a 22 pistol using rat shot and carried it home. I had five of my grandchildren swimming in my pool and I safely showed them the dead snake. I showed them how it blended in with the leaves and dirt and told them how dangerous these critters are. They were facinated and educated today. We constantly warn them about snakes and maby this will help.

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John A.

06-28-2007 21:40:01




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
Jiles, I personally detest most all snakes, Coppereads,Water Macaacines-(msp), and Rattlesnakes rate a close 1-2-3! Never pass up a chance to kill one.
But those Copperheads are one sneaky, eill natured, mean sort. Also they stink, when you learn what to smell for. They also like places up near most homes where they can hide, and catch small frogs, mice and the like. They are not as big a head hunter as a Water Macacine-(msp) are but they are just sneaky.
Unless I know it is a beneficial snake ie Bullsnake it will be DEAD. My $.02.
Later,
John A.
Also Like John A.(TX) He is from over near Bryan,Tx Deep in the Heart Of Aggieland said....Coral snakes are pretty scarce around her too. But because they have to chew on soft flesh ie between you fingers or toes at the base of those appendiges it would be tough to get really poisened by a coral snake. They have little teeth, not fangs! Later,
John A.

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buickanddeere

06-28-2007 19:10:03




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
We have a few of the little rascals left from the rattler family. I don't have the stats on hand but medical staff have often said. That the typical snake bite victom is a teen to 20's aged male with a female audience. And is/was drunk enough to try picking up the snake in order to show off.

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John A (TX)

06-28-2007 19:06:44




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
Plenty of the durn Copperhead critters here in Central TX. We usually kill 2-3 a year. As much rain as we've been having - maybe you've seen what's happening in Marble Falls & we're about 90 mi east of there - the grass is getting really tall. I start getting nervous when that happens.

You've probably heard the old saying "Red-and-yellow, kill a fellow, red-and-black, friend of Jack". The red & yellow part applies to Coral snakes. Bad news. We've killed two over the past 20 yrs. The good news about Corals is that they have very tiny mouths.

Sure pays to be careful where you step or put your hand, doesn't it?

~ja

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Goose

06-28-2007 18:04:50




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
We don't have poisonous snakes here in eastern Nebraska, that I know of. Mostly garter snakes and bull snakes.

However, we have friends in the Sandhills in rattler country. One afternoon my wife, our daughter, our friends daughter, Roberta, and her three little girls drove out to Roberta's house outside of town. When they drove up, there was a big rattler coiled on the front steps. Roberta said, "Wait a sec".

She calmly got out of the car, got a 12 guage out of the trunk, blew the rattler off the steps, and said, "OK, you can come in now". Kind of like she was swatting a fly.

I don't think I'll ever get that nonchalant about any snake. Someone killed an eight foot boa a couple of miles south of my house a few years ago. Since boas are not native to Nebraska, the only thing anyone could think of was that it was a pet that had gotten too big to keep, so it was turned loose. Or escaped. One thing's for sure. It would never have survived a Nebraska winter.

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JDB

07-02-2007 07:55:13




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Goose, 06-28-2007 18:04:50  
Sorry Goose, I have to dissagree with you about snakes eastern Nebraska. We have timber rattlers and pygmy rattle snakes. They are not very common, but they are around. It pays to be wary.
Know what your saying about rattle snakes in the sandhills, I grew up there.



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KIP in MX

06-28-2007 17:12:15




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
I grew up in rattlesnake country (NM), so don�t know much about copperheads. Down here we have something a little worse called the Nauyaca. It�s a pit viper and the English name is Bothrops Asper or Fer-de-Lance. Real nasty snake! So far here on the island, I�ve only seen a few small (2-4 ft) boa constricters. My wife saw one down from our house that stretched all the way across the road (9-10 ft). She said it was dead and took me to see it at when I went home for lunch. It was gone...it was only sunning on the asphalt. That really freaked her out! She said she had been standing right next to it, thinking it was dead. Thank goodness it wasn�t a Nauyaca.

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Billy NY

06-28-2007 17:08:07




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
I was going to say, if you ever saw what some of those bites can do to you, I'd kind of forget about the let live policy too. I remember looking up the subject when rained out one day, does not look pleasant to say the least. We are fortunate not to have any venomous ones around here, we like the corn snakes as they reduce the mice population, had heard of the rare timber rattler in the nearby mountains, and copperheads on site jobs I worked on in NJ, they were replacing a bridge on a back road outside of Morristown, by the Seeing Eye on Washington Valley Road, where they train the dogs for the blind, work crew apparently uncovered a den full of em, we were building a road for a developer on a really nice piece of property, 1/4 mile away.

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BobinKS

06-28-2007 16:15:47




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
My snake stories can go on for a while. We have had four copperheads in 12 years at our farm. One was in the basement, one under the front porch, one by the back deck and the other a little further away. The kicker is that our county decided to release 30 timber rattlers in the county park across the road. One of the ones with a tracking device on likes our farm. He has been over here and was caught up by the barn. It was rereleased in the park and was back in a couple of days but down by the creek. I really want to kill that one just for the tracker so I can put it on the neighbors dog collar.

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Ken Crisman

06-28-2007 16:11:32




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
Snakes ? Only good one is a DEAD one . Around me , they all die . Ooooo ! You're very fortunate it only made you sick . God bless, Ken



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mjbrown

06-28-2007 15:15:04




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
When it's 5 degrees in January here in NY I like to think about the venemous snakes that don't live here.



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old

06-28-2007 15:10:06




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
Only snake I do kill is copper heads and rattle snakes if I ever see a rattle snake that is. I have to many animals around and people to let them live



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midwest redneck

06-28-2007 15:09:15




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
What state are you in?



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Jiles

06-28-2007 19:56:15




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to midwest redneck, 06-28-2007 15:09:15  
I live in N.W. Alabama in a community called Killen, just outside Florence Alabama.



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cat236

06-28-2007 14:38:03




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
While repairing a tractor that had been sitting in a hedge row for several years.I was reaching in a blind spot to remove grass and debris and felt something poke me hard.At the time I thought it to be a thorn or screw. Next morning my arm was huge and hurt like crazy. I could barely use until later in the day.I was also very sick to my stomach and felt like I had the flu. I went to work and came home that evening. I was draining fuel from carb when I saw about a foot long Copperhead on the top of cylinder, I removed him and killed him as I too had young children and this was in my attached garage. My arm still bothering me a friend was over the third night and I showed him the snake. He looks at snake and looks at my arm and comes to the conclusion I had been bitten.When we looked closer there were two puncture wounds. Either weak venom or not enough delivered,I never went to DR as I didnt have health insurance.After a little over a week I began feeling better and swelling went down. I agree with everything you have done you never know where they may be and had that been a small child the results may have been much worse.I would also make sure children stay away from area you have found snakes as there are usually more.

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Davis In SC

06-28-2007 14:18:57




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 Re: OT-Copperhead! in reply to Jiles, 06-28-2007 14:01:23  
A while back, I was talking to a trucker at the shop, while he was waiting to be loaded. He was telling me about his teenage daughter being bitten, walking up the drive, after getting off the schoolbus. Bite was on her ankle, her leg swelled up so much, that they had to cut slits in the skin, so it would not burst. She was in the hospital a long time, and was facing a lengthy recovery, as well as therapy, to regain use of her leg.

Yes, under the right conditions, a copperhead bite can be just as bad as a rattler.

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