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Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A Who made them

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woodache

06-25-2007 23:45:19




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I just bought a Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A welder, stick machine, and was interested in knowing who made it? Looks like it was made in 1981. No model no# on it. Got any Ideas. Works Great! Runs real smooth not bad for a 20% duty machine. I never got a manual. What these sell for used? Thanks




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woodache

06-27-2007 07:21:30




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 I give it the picky rod test Re:Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman A in reply to woodache, 06-25-2007 23:45:19  
I give this Sears welder the picky rod test yesterday. You can spot a decent AC/DC machine by running a bit if 7018 DC rod set in the AC mode, a decent machine will do a 7018 bead up to your skill level with little trouble with decent starting and without a lot of spatter if it is a good runner. The second rod test is if it will run a decent 308L SS bead on a cast iron weld. This Sears machine passed both tests nicely. The iron was old stove grates still rusty, some of the hardest cast to weld as a lot of carbon is burned in. PS: Just a tip here, 308L SS will weld cast iron with much fewer cracks than NI Rod or any other cast iron rod. Also is the ONLY rod that I use on old exhaust manifolds. 308L doesn't machine very well though, sticks to the cutting tool, so not so good if anything other than grinding is required.

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Oldmax

06-27-2007 04:43:30




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 Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A Who made them in reply to woodache, 06-25-2007 23:45:19  
I have a Lincoln 225 AMP that is about 40 years old good for home use. also have a Westinghouse 250 AMP that I have no idea how old it is has to be 60 years old give to me by former employer 20 years ago . Both do good job , most of these welders do good job for home use .



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dave guest

06-26-2007 19:50:31




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 Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A Who made them in reply to woodache, 06-25-2007 23:45:19  
Safety warning. Last box of 6011 rods I bought had this in large print, "Never use AC welder on ground or damp locations, also never use AC welder on large metal objects directly on ground. For these conditions use DC welder only."



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rockyhawaii

06-26-2007 16:09:25




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 Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A Who made them in reply to woodache, 06-25-2007 23:45:19  
I have a Craftsman AC/DC welder, made in the 1980's, model 113, and it says 230 amp. It doesn't say who made it for them.



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Stan in Oly, WA

06-26-2007 10:34:08




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 Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A Who made them in reply to woodache, 06-25-2007 23:45:19  
Hi woodache,

I owned one of those a few years ago. I don't remember it being 250 amps, though. I think the one I had was 240 (AC) and I can't remember what the DC went up to, so maybe it was a different model.

Isn't yours a graduated amperage welder (you turn a crank or slide a lever to set the amperage, rather than clicking on fixed settings?) If so, you have a lot more than a 20% duty cycle at all but the highest settings---which you are unlikely to use much, if at all. A welder like that often indicates the 100% duty cycle range on the face of the machine. This will be around 100 amps AC and 70 amps DC (and all lower settings, of course.)

My understanding is that the factor which limits the duty cycle is the heat generated by the electronics. In a machine with an infinitely adjustable amperage setting system, the same internal conductors carry the current at every setting. Because less heat if generated at lower settings than higher ones, higher duty cycles are possible for lower settings. The reason Lincoln buzzbox welders have a 20% duty cycle at every setting is because they use different sized internal conductors for each individual amperage the transformer is tapped for.

All the best, Stan

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woodache

06-26-2007 11:31:32




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 Thats it except Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A Wh in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 06-26-2007 10:34:08  
Thats it! you hit the nail on the head, except mine does say 250A. And yes the duty cycle is 100% at 120A AC. I just finished running it a bit and while it is no match my old 50s center dial 360A selenium 1Ph AC-DC Hobart, that got stolen a few years back. That Hobart was the finest buzz box I had ever used ever. Bought 2 of those Hobart's at an auction for $25 in Portland OR. They looked like an old house oil stove and took a forklift to move them. Gave one to my Dad to replace his Airco crackerbox. This Sears machine does a nice job and quite compact too. Iam impressed too, as a lot of Sears electric stuff isnt very good. Now we will see how long it lasts. Looks new used very little from an estate sale.

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Stan in Oly, WA

06-26-2007 14:31:04




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 Re: Thats it except Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250 in reply to woodache, 06-26-2007 11:31:32  
Hi woodache,

If you don't exceed the duty cycle and you take reasonable care of it, I think you can expect the welder to last forever plus 10 years, give or take.

I have a Lincoln AC buzzbox that's only 185 amps but otherwise it looks exactly like any other Lincoln 225 amp AC buzzbox (it's not my main stick welder.) It doesn't have a fan and I can't tell if it was made that way or not. It came with 50' #2 leads but it was so old that the rubber on the leads is cracked beyond use or repair. Still, it welds like a dream and it's quieter than any other buzzbox type welder I've ever used---makes none of that groaning noise that transformer welders always seem to make.

It just occurred to me that the Craftsman welder I used to own was AC only. It was more picky about what electrodes it would run than any welder I've ever seen. Consider yourself lucky you don't have that model.

All the best, Stan

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woodache

06-27-2007 06:54:50




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 185 Lincoln: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250 in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 06-26-2007 14:31:04  
The 185 Lincoln came without a fan to up the duty cycle one can be added. Yours has the shinny metal Amp selector handle right? I remember these machines, they were a mass market machine that in the 60s would be sold at a very low price of the lowest I ever seen was $79 with a basic weld kit. They also, at least some of them welded at 24V instead of the usual 36V. The high school bought several of these then. All they had were old surplus Hobart vertical M/G bullets, great welders but the noise was deafening. There was also another strange thing about the welding voltage is that if you knew how to do it the weld voltage could be set to 48V at this voltage they would run DC 7018 almost as good as any DC machine. I worked at a weld shop that had 2 of these low cost machines that had the voltage reset.

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souNdguy

06-26-2007 11:40:46




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 Re: Thats it except Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250 in reply to woodache, 06-26-2007 11:31:32  
Ditto.. my hobart stickmate 235ac will run 90 or 100ac amps at 100% duty cycle..

Soundguy



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dan hill

06-26-2007 03:53:34




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 Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A Who made them in reply to woodache, 06-25-2007 23:45:19  
Century Co. made Sears welders.Lincoln bought Century co. several years ago.



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mjbrown

06-26-2007 03:45:44




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 Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A Who made them in reply to woodache, 06-25-2007 23:45:19  
Emerson Electric made a lot of Sears stuff so maybe the welder also.



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Areo

06-26-2007 15:40:56




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 Re: Arc Welder:Sears Craftsman AC-DC 250A Who made them in reply to mjbrown, 06-26-2007 03:45:44  
We got a welder from Sears that was made by Emerson in 1946 that is still going. My brother has it but, has not used it much lately since alzheimers got to him.

Areo



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