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Small Air Compressors

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Ken Goth (MO)

05-31-2001 05:55:17




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How well do the small 2hp/2gal 'pancake' compressors run tools like an impact wrench or air rachet? I have homemade 40 gal compressor but the pump is so undersized on it that it can't keep up with an impact wrench. Priced new pumps -$139 but for $10 more can get a pancake compressor at the local wholesale club. The compressor will be used occasionally (changing tires, removing mower blades, etc.). Would there be any value to hooking up the pancake compressor to the 40 gal tank to run the tools off big tank?
Thanks for the advice!
Ken

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Ken Goth (MO)

06-01-2001 04:51:39




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 Re: Small Air Compressors in reply to Ken Goth (MO), 05-31-2001 05:55:17  
Thanks ALL for the advice. I think I'll just keep hitting auctions looking for a good deal on a newer compressor.
Thanks Again,
Ken



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JerryU

06-01-2001 04:30:40




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 Re: Small Air Compressors in reply to Ken Goth (MO), 05-31-2001 05:55:17  
I agree with the posts. I bought a 12 gallon Devillbiss oiless compressor for about $175 nearly 8 years ago for the occaisional lug nuts, air ratchet, etc. I figured from what I read it was a throw away. Well, 8 years later it is still cranking and I have used the heck out of it. As far as supply, if you use an air ratchet for long periods of time, you will bleed it down, same for a die grinder and drill. But for the most part it has served me well since I had limited funds and limited power to run the thing from. It is noisey, but for the occaisional use, it doesn't bother me. Nice thing is it is on wheels and when I built my addition on to the house, I wheeled it out and used it with the nailer.

For the occaisional user, weekend warrior, it works out well. Not for painting or long term use. I also had it hooked up to about a 20 gallon tank, but abandoned that. It really didn't help out that much for what I needed and caused the compressor to run longer to pump it up.

If I were buying an oiless, buy as big as tank as you can get given the space and power. For the long haul, go with an oil sump. Quieter and lasts longer, but next time, I will probably go the oiless route. Heck 10 years for $180 isn't too bad.

IMHO

JU

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John in MA

05-31-2001 20:58:36




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 Re: Small Air Compressors in reply to Ken Goth (MO), 05-31-2001 05:55:17  
I wouldn't do it for several reasons:

1. Pancake compressors are designed for running nailers on tiny tanks. They most likely have a short duty cycle before they overheat. Filling a 40 gallon tank would be deadly.

2. Most pancakes use an oilless compressor. They are slow, run VERY hot, and are incredibly noisy. You need hearing protection to use one I've seen indoors.

3. Oilless compressors don't last nearly as long as a proper oil-lubed model (the "sump" type Tyler was referring to). I know someone who uses an oil compressor that nearly 90 years old.

4. I doubt the output would be any faster than the one you have. They can't keep up with an impact wrench.

5. And finally, any pancake compressor that's cheaper than an oil-lubed pump is junk. You can't get a good compressor, tank, and regulator for less than a serious compressor pump.

Also, you might need a more powerful motor to run the bigger pump you buy.

Good luck.

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Tyler(WA)

05-31-2001 08:03:54




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 Re: Small Air Compressors in reply to Ken Goth (MO), 05-31-2001 05:55:17  
Ken,

It will work to add the 40 gal tank to the small compressor and it will give you a greater capacity. Your small compressor will take longer to load up but there's usually plenty of time with the duty cycle of most air tools.

When you look for a compressor, be sure to look at the difference between a "sump" compressor and these new "ear busting" things. The new compressors are cheap to build but REALLY loud. I know a contractor who is selling one just because of the noise and it's used outside.

A sump type compressor has a long throw and quiet opperation. I'd go for the peace and quiet over the few bucks you save.

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Dennis/Ohio

05-31-2001 20:54:22




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 Re: Re: Small Air Compressors in reply to Tyler(WA), 05-31-2001 08:03:54  
I agree, the new oil-less compressors will pump air but they are direct drive at 3400 rpm. The noise is extreme. Hope that helps, Dennis.....



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