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How are winches rated.

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J Schwiebert

06-21-2007 01:49:57




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Need to put a winch on a small trailer mainly the largest thing it will be used for is a riding lawn mower or a 4 H. P. Hit and miss engine on trucks. How do yo calculate the size needed since you are pulling forward as well as up on an angle.




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Slowpoke

07-02-2007 23:51:08




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 Re: How are winches rated. in reply to J Schwiebert, 06-21-2007 01:49:57  
I have a 1200lb Dutton-Lainson manual winch on my trailer that I used to load a Ford 9N, IHC 240, '51 International 1 ton, and others. I may use it single line pull or double line pull, depending on the weight. Whatever I do, I always drape a couple of sections of the binder chain over the cable, so if it breaks, it will drop down on the deck and not backlash to hit me.

Grainger catalog 397 has excellent information for choosing a winch. Included is a rolling weight chart and a cable drum wind chart. See page 2105.

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kito169

06-22-2007 09:55:32




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 Re: How are winches rated. in reply to J Schwiebert, 06-21-2007 01:49:57  
Warn rates their winches as to how much dead sliding weight on ground.



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george md

06-22-2007 12:39:19




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 Re: How are winches rated. in reply to kito169, 06-22-2007 09:55:32  
Any time you see a listing that is not bare

drum line pull, it is because the manufacturer

wants to make a small winch sound like a big

one.

george



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L.C.Gray

06-24-2007 06:44:21




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 Re: How are winches rated. in reply to george md, 06-22-2007 12:39:19  
????

Doing that would make the winch rate lower, not higher.

Bare drum pull is a lot higher than 2nd 3rd and so on wraps. You're giving up some leverage as the line stacks up and effectively increases the drum size. It will however increase your line speed accordingly.

My 8000# is down to about 5300# on the 3rd layer.



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george md

06-25-2007 23:24:40




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 Re: How are winches rated. in reply to L.C.Gray, 06-24-2007 06:44:21  

You misread my statement, many winches are rated as rolling weight or sliding weight and
a small winch (2000 lb) will pull an 8 or 10K
vehicle . That is the fallacy. You are absolutely right about the reduction in line pull as the drum fills.

Tell Mike I said hi .

george



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rockyhawaii

06-21-2007 21:02:19




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 Re: How are winches rated. in reply to J Schwiebert, 06-21-2007 01:49:57  
Some are rated by a double-line pull, some as single-line, so read carefully. You can use a 2,000 pound winch on your trailer with no problem, but if you opt for a Chinese product, be advised they don"t last very long and parts are impossible (for me anyways) to find. I"ve burnt out a couple of remote switches already this year, and a set of internals that can"t be replaced.



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george md

06-21-2007 08:39:05




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 Re: How are winches rated. in reply to J Schwiebert, 06-21-2007 01:49:57  
John,

Winches are normally rated by bare drum line,
but there are some new catalogs that give you
a number called rolling weight ( quite worthless).

To figure the pull needed to pull up a ramp,
divide the weight of the load by the sine of the
angle of the ramp and add some for friction losses.

george



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Joe(TX)

06-22-2007 06:51:26




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 Re: How are winches rated. in reply to george md, 06-21-2007 08:39:05  
You actually multiply by the sine of the angle.



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george md

06-22-2007 12:34:13




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 Re: How are winches rated. in reply to Joe(TX), 06-22-2007 06:51:26  

joe ,

you are absolutely right , must be from having head stuffed where the sun don't shine.

george



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