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Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop?

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TomNTex

05-31-2007 09:22:53




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I've been thinking about a pressure washer for the farm. Something to keep the build up off the tractor and old backhoe especially during repairs and maintenance.
Just wondering if 5.5 honda 2.5gpm 2700psi unit would be suffice. Would you spend the extra 100+ bucks for the cat pump?
I was looking in the Northern catalog and just looking for some advice.

Thanks




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Wardner

06-01-2007 13:21:06




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
This truck is retired but the Cat 50hp (I think it was rated for 5000 lb @ 10 gals per minute) was driven off the PTO. I purchased the pump originally for chemical cleaning of historic buildings. It was mounted on my tandem azle IH bucket truck and driven off the crankshaft. It still runs good and I may set it up on one of my IH tractors.

I have several more triplex pumps that are probably twice that size. I have never fired them up but they are available for sale. They would be perfect for a larger tractor and would clean anything in a hurry.

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Tim B from MA

06-01-2007 10:05:31




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
Tom,

I bought the next size up p-washer from Northern a couple years ago: I believe 9 HP, 3250 PSI, 4 gpm. I thing it is a well put together machine. I bought it with the CAT pump and I would do it again - I think it is one of those things worth spending a little more to get the best. After all, a preassure washer without a pump is just a motor :)

I like the idea suggested about buying a pump separately and rigging it with an electric motor. One item I am accumulating too many of is small gas engines that need to be maintained.

I wouldn't worry about having too much preassure - If you are washing something that concerns you, put a 45 degree nozzel on it and don't hold it too close.

Having said all that, I am a not the biggest fan of preassure washers. They do great on thick build ups, and porus or irregular surfaces, but are not very good for washing cars, trucks and , campers etc. Basically, you need to hold the nozzel within about 4 inches of the vehicle to get it clean with no obvious residue. At that point it is quicker and more effective to use a brush on a handle or a sponge.

As for hot water machines, people say they are much better and I would not doubt it, I have not experience myself. Note that you can run hot water through most pumps, up to about 140 degrees F or so. You could hook a regular machine up to domestic hot water and achieve the same. I have not tried this with mine yet, but may soon.

Good luck.

Tim

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Stumpalump

05-31-2007 20:17:43




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
I have had a 5hp briggs unit with a cat pump for about 13 years. Sams club unit. Love it! I used a 13 hp honda befor I bought it and all it did better was clean faster. The smaller one I bought can be streamed down and cuts tough stuff as well only slower. I would spend an extra hundred on a cat pump befor I spent extra on a honda because hondas arn't really any better in the long run than briggs. Watch the oil in the pump and don't let it freeze the left over water in it.

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Leland

05-31-2007 19:25:39




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
I manage several carwashs and the cat pump the 623 is my favorite and is worth the extra money ,but shop around you probley can find a pump cheaper elsewere and you could build it into shop in a small cabinet inside shop and route hose to outside via a quik coulper thru wall . but google carwash supplies there are several different brands of pumps belive it or not the jap s make one heck of a pump and I would hook up a 5hp elect moltor instead of a gasser cheaper to operate and maintain I have some elect motors with well over 7000 hours and no problems pumps with 5000 hours and just have had seals and piston kits installed easy repairs on them .and with some of the kits you would have selonids where you could have a presoak hi pressure soap polish and rinse just like a self serve carwash bay . And to make a hotwater washer I took and routed 1 bay to a boiler after the pump since most pumps are not supposed to have anything over 120* water thru them .any questions just ask . Try www.windtrax.com or carwashsuperstore.com these are good places to start

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circus

05-31-2007 17:26:16




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
what ever you buy, get a turbo wand with it. It provides a pin point stream that spins in circles.



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Brokenwrench

05-31-2007 16:32:34




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
Tom,
I second Mike M. Spend the money and get a hot pressure washer. I have a Honda 13 hp that pumps 3500 psi at 4 gal a minute. The thing is so wild, you end up running it at an idle. This spring I bought a Hotsy, I think the same one as was mentioned below, runs on 110. I love the thing. It does 10 times the job as my other one, and is way better on grease and dirt. I just sold my other one to the guy who owns the local gas station(hasn`t paid me yet), he`s used it many times for cleaning off his cement around the station, the high volume high pressure is great for that. The lower pressure, hot washer, in my opinion, is way better on machinery, vehicles, etc.. Good luck Brokenwrench

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Leroy

05-31-2007 14:36:08




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
I have a 1/2 HP electric that Dad bought used about 25 year ago and I think it is only about 750 # pressure; do not even know make; has all the pressure I would ever want to clean machinery, get those high pressure units and you will do a lot of dammage, not only to the unit you are trying to wash mut will actually forse the water and what else that is in it thru your skin; remember those high pressure ones are double or more the hydrolic pressure in a tractor. Have the soap tank but never use it, do not know if the valve will even turn, to shut of water to washer I just screwed a valve into where the hose attaches. For hot water wash I just use a hose Y from both the hot and cold water outside faucets from the water heater. Unless you are doing commercial washing that is way to much pressure and the gas engine unless you are out where you have to draw the water from a tanker truck so there would be no electric I would stay away from a gas powered unit, the electric will start when I want to use it, the gas probably would not.I have looked at those units in the catalog and decided they would be no good for me with way to much power. You want the pressure low enough that if you get your hand or other body parts in front of the nozzel you do not have to take a trip to the hospital.

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dan hill

06-09-2007 05:17:30




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to Leroy, 05-31-2007 14:36:08  
Saw a pix of a wound a fellow got on his ankle from a pressure washer, went thru his shoe.Left a crater that was hard to heal.



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Oldman1151

05-31-2007 13:31:09




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
Tom, I purchased a similar unit last year except mine is rated 2600# psi. The 2.5 gpm and the 5.5 Honda engine is a good combination. It also has the soap/degreaser which syphons directly from a gallon bottle. The wand has five quick change nozzles for low to high pressure which is nice if you do not want the full pressure. I use mine mainly for cleaning up farm equipment. It really cuts the dirt and grease even though I not used the dispenser yet. Good Luck!

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Mike M

05-31-2007 13:01:15




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
If that pressure you stated is correct ? 2700 ?that is way more than you need and will risk damage to belts and wiring harnesses.

I have a Hotsy hot water pressure washer. I think it is the largest one that still runs on 110 volt and I think it goes to around 1500 psi ? this unit will do anything needed unless you are doing commercial cleaning and do alot of heavy grease and paint removal then it will be too slow. Hot water is by far the best at grease removal and really helps when it gets cold outside.

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JonMN

05-31-2007 12:44:37




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
Tom I bought a hot water washer at Northern years ago. I milked cows back then so I used it for cleaning the dairy barn mostly, but now just machainery. They work great for cleaning dirt and grease and steaming radiators. Last year I had trouble with the blue cat pump. They have ceramic plungers, I think three of them, they run a little over three hundred apiece. Ended up replaceing the cat pump with a Italian one. But then again that was after about twenty years of wonderful service.

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souNdguy

05-31-2007 12:29:27




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
I also have the small electric karcher electric pressure washer .. I got it at lowes for less than 100$ as i remember. Came with 2 wands.. one made to be adjustable.. and to syphon soap.. and the other as a really HD pressure nozzle.

I've used it to clean up concrete, and to pressure wash equipment in prep for painting. I can tell ya.. it has -NO- problem removing paint if you linger in one spot... I like the cheapy 5$ a gallon pressure washer soap mix made for the B&S pw's that lowes also sells. it's half the price of the name brands.. and works fine to cut grease..

Sure a gas engine one would be nice.. but for homeowner projects.. this one gets anywhere a 100' ext cable and long water hose can get to.

Soundguy

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Don c

05-31-2007 10:48:55




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
I have a small Karsher, 1700# one, can only us it about 6 months of year due to it gets cold in Western PA. so it goes in side for the winter. I only use cold water as thats all I have in shop but I go to dollar store and get the easy off oven cleaner, COLD type only, spray, let it set and power it off, works great... outside of course..



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mss3020

05-31-2007 10:55:26




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to Don c, 05-31-2007 10:48:55  
I have the same unit. Whats nice is that its powerful enough when using the zero dot orbiting head to remove the paint. I like mine I use it to clean my mower decks, degrease the equipment when done. Also with the lesser power head use it on my vehicles. Ive also used it to wash my siding on my house. Its a nice cheeper model that will pretty much keep most things around my place clean. Tractor, baler, swather, skidloader, brush hog, you get the idea...

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JV3CII

05-31-2007 10:48:36




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
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Hi Tom. A power washer is a very good idea. Hot water ones are nice, but not essential for the kind of use you describe. What I would say is essential on any PW is a soap pickup. Rotating "turbo" nozzles are good, but a little expensive for my tastes. The CAT pumps are beautifully made, virtually unkillable and spares backup is superb. For most use the ones Northern sell (a lot of which appear to be Italian Annovi-Reverberi and Interpump ones) are fine. The extra $$$ would only really be worth it for a contractors machine (or if, like me, you found a S/H one cheap and built your own PW round it - see pic).

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oldrustycars

05-31-2007 10:23:29




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
I've found that cold water, no soap washers do a poor job on grease.



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Joe Greathouse

05-31-2007 10:11:30




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to TomNTex, 05-31-2007 09:22:53  
Tom,
I purchased a unit with the same specs that you designated at Lowe's for farm use. It has a 5.5 Honda engine that is problably one of the best on the market. It also has a brass pump at 2.5 gpm that you can get rebuild parts for when you need them. The neatest thing that happened at Lowe's was that after I purchased it for under $400, they sent me a gift card for $50.00 that I spent on a Kobalt electric impact wrench that works really well. There are other units out there on the market that are good but after about 3 months of research, I bought the one at Lowe's. Good Luck in your selection. Check out Lowe's
Joe G.

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suptscottyb

06-02-2007 17:36:55




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 Re: Do You Guys Have a Pressure Washer in the shop in reply to Joe Greathouse, 05-31-2007 10:11:30  
You got plenty of feedback, here. I own the unit your looking at, has worked fine for 5 years. If you really want to wash cars with one of these things find a rotary brush attatchment. works great, but there is always somethin' needs doin' more than washin' the car.



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