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Old Marquette welder

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Steve Crum

05-27-2007 17:47:57




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Gary, our maintenance boss at work decided to get some welding done at the top of the house bins which are 6 stories high. The old welder that they used for years up there (and has not been used for years) was looking pretty sad and to top it off the clean up crew threw out the leads for it. So he went out and bought a new Lincoln 225 AC/DC welder to keep in the power room up there. He made me a deal when I asked if I could buy the old one. If I got the new welder to the 6th story, I could have the old one, (in otherwords I would have to bring the old one down).
This is an old 275 amp AC welder that's gotta weight about 1 pound per amp. Gary said it worked good the last time they used it about 8 years ago. It has always been dry but in a dusty mill enviroment. My thoughts are to do with this what I did with the old (about the same vintage) Craftsman welder we had on the farm that got flooded back during the 72' flood. I just stripped that down and power washed all the internals then blew it all out with air the let it set for a week to dry out. That one worked fine and still does to this day. Anybody know of a source for information on this welder?

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Steve Crum

05-28-2007 19:25:22




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 Re: Old Marquette welder in reply to Steve Crum, 05-27-2007 17:47:57  
I'm having a tough time reading the nomenclature plate on this welder. Wasn't a great idea putting it on the top where crud collects and corrodes the plate. What I can read is 21.1 and 440. This I'm assuming means 21.1 amps at 440 volts. Considering this welder is likely about the same vintage as the mill it came out of, which was state of the art in it's time right down the most equipment being 440 volts, it makes sense. Once I get this apart and cleaned up, I'll have Gary take a look at it to see if it is 440 and if it can be wired the 240 volts.

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unioncreek

05-28-2007 17:19:39




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 Re: Old Marquette welder in reply to Steve Crum, 05-27-2007 17:47:57  
I have an old Marquette that my Dad bought used who knows when. The only difference is on my welder the lead sockets run in a circle. Your right on the weight, it's all I can do to lift mine and slide it along.

Bobg



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Bud in NC

05-28-2007 16:47:11




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 Re: Old Marquette welder in reply to Steve Crum, 05-27-2007 17:47:57  
If it still works you should be able to figure a way to use new welding lead, split lugs, rubber insulating tape and electrical tape or "heat shrink" to "hard wire" modern connectors to it.



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Buzzman72

05-28-2007 07:30:15




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 My Welder Has A Twin !!! in reply to Steve Crum, 05-27-2007 17:47:57  
That looks identical to the welder that I have that came from Dad and Grand-dad's old garage. Dad told me he thought they bought it--used?? [he couldn't remember]--when they opened their doors in March of 1941.

Moving it to my garage, I have to say you're 100% correct about the weight of that sucker. But it's about as reliable as anything I own. When you get some info about the lead connectors, please share. I need to replace my ground lead, as the old natural rubber is in sorry shape, and if I can get a new connector where it plugs into the welder, I figure I'll be ahead of the game.

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TimV

05-28-2007 06:35:43




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 Re: Old Marquette welder in reply to Steve Crum, 05-27-2007 17:47:57  
Not much help on the welder, as I know a few other people that have looked for the leads for these without much success. Still, the "nostalgia factor" is definitely there on this one--I learned to weld on thie baby brother to this machine 25 years ago in my grandfather's shop at the farm. My brother is still using this welder (a 180-amp Marquette) and you're right about the weight!



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Davis In SC

05-27-2007 20:02:00




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 Re: Old Marquette welder in reply to Steve Crum, 05-27-2007 17:47:57  
I hate to condone scrapping any older tools or machines, but there might be enough copper in that one to buy a new welder..



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Steve Crum

05-28-2007 04:43:20




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 Re: Old Marquette welder in reply to Davis In SC, 05-27-2007 20:02:00  
I agree with not scrapping older tools. The only time I do that is when something is beyond practical salvage, that's likely why Gary gave me this. There are a dozen people at work that would have grabbed it and ran straight to the scrapyard.
I really don't need this as I have 2 Miller welders that are used exclusively for TIG, a lincoln 225 AC/DC for light stick and the old Craftsman I use on heavy stick burning. I do like these old ones because I don't think the words 'duty cycle' and printed circuit board had been invented yet when these were built. Leads for this are a minor issue as I already have a "spare" set of 50' #0 leads that I use occasionally when I need to reach out and touch something.

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Century ASC

05-27-2007 19:52:36




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 Re: Old Marquette welder in reply to Steve Crum, 05-27-2007 17:47:57  
There is very little info available at this time.
Marquette was purchased by Lincoln Automotive, sold to Clore along with Century, then sold to the WCTA division of Lincoln Electric. You might try them @ 866.236.0044 for any additional info,
last I heard they didn"t have anything. Your most pressing problem is the leads - this is a part we have out for quote, send me an e-mail with "marquette jack plug" in the subject line & I"ll let you know price & delivery when they become available.

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