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mwkellner

05-08-2007 06:57:05




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I have an older (early 80's) craftsman 10' table saw. I thought that the blade was getting dull when ripping treated 2x4's. I discovered that the blade is not square with the fence or table. I checked the fence and it is sqare with the table. The back of the blade is slightly closer to the fence than the front, causing it to bind. I bought the saw used and do not have any books on it. How can I adjust this? Thanks for your help. -- Martin

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the tractor vet

05-10-2007 07:12:47




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 Re: crooked blade in reply to mwkellner, 05-08-2007 06:57:05  
setting up a table saw is easy , i bought one a couple years ago off E/Bay it's and older craftsman and she was just a bit out . the fence on mine was one of them fancy extruded aluim. ones and it was out of square the trunion was also out . first i worked on getting the fence square to the table using the miter gauge slots then to make sure that it would NEVEr get out of square again i drilled and doweled the fence next i squared the trunion to the miter gauge slots there are 4 bolts under the table that hold the trunion to the table i loosenedthree of them but kept one snug using my good tri square i got it close by tapping the trunion with a pice of hard wood and a small hammer and snuged the bolts down then i mounted my dial indecator to the miter gauge and shimed it real snug in the slot then with the pice of wood and hammer tapped it to where i got it with in .0015 on a new blade and for me that is close enough . Now this took some time as when ya would tighten down the mounting bolts she would want to walk a bit .

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Slowpoke

05-10-2007 00:46:54




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 Re: crooked blade in reply to mwkellner, 05-08-2007 06:57:05  
If you post the model number, someone may have a copy.



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MarkB_MI

05-08-2007 19:13:21




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 Re: crooked blade in reply to mwkellner, 05-08-2007 06:57:05  
Your best bet is to try to order a replacement manual for your saw. The manual will have extensive instructions on how to line everything up. There are at least two variants of the 10 inch craftsman table saws: direct versus belt drive, so it doesn't make much sense to give instructions here without knowing which saw you have. However, I'll give you the directions as they pertain to my belt drive saw.

The short version of the setup process is that the blade is aligned to the miter slots in the table, and the fence is also aligned to the miter slots. You can check the blade parallelism with combination square, slide the body of the square along the slot and use the ruler of the square to determine if the blade is parallel to the slot. On my belt drive saw, the blade is adjusted by loosening the six bolts that secure the blade arbor trunnions to the bottom of the table and then tapping the rear trunnion in the desired direction.

There should be some screws on your fence that you can loosen to adjust the fence parallel to the miter slots. (I have a newer fence, so my instructions probably aren't useful for yours.) You may want to consider replacing the fence. I believe both Sears and other companies offer replacement fence systems that will be a lot easier to use.

If you don't want to go through the whole setup right now, just use a tape measure to check that the fence is parallel to the blade each time you use it. With the older fences, you need to do this anyway. But if you have a belt drive, cast iron table saw, it is worth your time and money to completely realign it and replace the old fence with a modern one.

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mwkellner

05-09-2007 09:38:25




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 Re: crooked blade in reply to MarkB_MI, 05-08-2007 19:13:21  
Thanks to all. It is a belt drive, sorry I forgot to mention that. I guess it got out of alignment when we moved about 2 month ago. I will try to get the books that match this saw, but y'all have helped me to finish this job tonight. thanks again -- Martin



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oleblu

05-08-2007 17:19:51




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 Re: crooked blade in reply to mwkellner, 05-08-2007 06:57:05  
I think all of your ideas have merit, but you must FIRST square the blade to the table. You do this using the groove in the table for the miter guage, setting the blade equal distance from one tooth in the front of the blade then rotating that same tooth to the back and checking the distance again. When both these measurements are equal, the blade is square to the table. NOW you can turn your attention to squaring the rip fence.

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IH2444

05-09-2007 07:12:25




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 Re: crooked blade in reply to oleblu, 05-08-2007 17:19:51  
Using the mitre gauge groove as a guide it makes no difference which is adjusted first does it ?



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NE IA Dave

05-08-2007 15:50:53




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 Re: crooked blade in reply to mwkellner, 05-08-2007 06:57:05  
I sure do not want to disagree with anyone, but my older radial arm saws, both Craftsmans do not adjust on the saw. Newer ones may however, but mine have the adjustments in the table / board stop. They are always a pain if you move them from job site to job site as they get out of adjustment. Mine never get moved without me on one side, and making sure everyone lifts in the correct place. If you must move the saw once in a while, I put a male and female 110 volt plug near the saw so I can take the saw off the arm. One must never forget to put the screw back in that keeps the saw from coming off the arm.

If you are trying to use the saw for ripping, maybe you should check out a table saw as Craftsman radial arm saws are a little under par for that job in my opinion.

Neither one of mine owes me anything as we have abused them for a long time. Once the power minter boxes came out and the lion trimers were purchased we kind of got away from the radial arm saws.

I should add that if you follow the owners manual on squaring the saw, it will indeed be perfect.

I did try one round of the glued together motor deals from Craftsman, and will turn into a serial killer if I ever go through that ordeal again.

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Maark

05-08-2007 09:57:49




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 Re: crooked blade in reply to mwkellner, 05-08-2007 06:57:05  
I bought one several years ago that was the same way. The blade mandrell has adjustment slots. I had to elongate 1 slot to make mine square with the table.



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IH2444

05-08-2007 09:54:31




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 Re: crooked blade in reply to mwkellner, 05-08-2007 06:57:05  
There should be some screws/bolts that hold the motor (if internal) or the blade mandrel to the table top. Loosten those slightly and adjust the blade until paralell with the fence. I just measure from a tooth fit on front and back of the blade to the fence until they are equal.
Then retighten the mandrel/ motor mounting bolts.

However before doing this is your fence square with the table ? This needs to be done before aligning the blade with the fence.
both need to be square for everything to work right.

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