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old

05-07-2007 12:39:55




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Ok which would be better to do when stacking round bales of hay. The barn is dirt floor. Should I put down plastic then pallets and set the bales down that way?? Or do I forget about the plastic and just set them on pallets. I can get pallets for free but not the plastic which costs about $7-10 per roll and it would take maybe 4 or 5 rolls of plastic to cover the floor.
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Aberdale Farm

05-08-2007 15:39:50




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 12:39:55  
I have a 40x120 hay barn with dirt floor. I've given up square baling in favor of small (4x5 1000 lb.) round bales. I lay down plastic and stack them 3 high. I've found pallets and tires to be a pain. Too much climbing on and off the loader to move them around. I only get minor moistue on the bottom bales, and I can drive over the plastic.

Dale



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Midnight

05-08-2007 05:24:01




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 12:39:55  
I build a 64x62 hay barn 6 years ago. The things I have learned. Make sure barn floor is 6-12" higher then outside and I put about 6-8" of ag-lime over entire floor. graded it level and watered it down. it is almost as hard as concrete. bales go directly on lime. Every year when I get ready for new hay I rake out any loose hay on floor. Bottom bales will have a little ag-lime on them but livestock doesn't mind and hay rings are cleaned out

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mjbrown

05-08-2007 05:23:15




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 12:39:55  
The plastic will save your pallets from rotting on the bottom but it won't have any affect on your hay. The pallets will keep the hay off the ground. If you have access to all the pallets you want you don't need to worry about them rotting. It takes a few years anyway.



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banjo

05-07-2007 20:23:35




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 12:39:55  
I stack mine with the flat side down, 3 high on dirt floor. the bottom one will get moisture but i have not had any problems feeding it. need forks instead of a spike to do it this way but i can get more in the barn that way.



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730virgil

05-07-2007 19:27:03




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 12:39:55  
friend of mine went to tire store and tire guy gave him a bunch of tires that he put on ground.



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old

05-07-2007 19:48:54




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to 730virgil, 05-07-2007 19:27:03  
You know I never thought of that. I have so many old tires laying around if I run out of pallets I could use a bunce of them



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RickL

05-07-2007 15:12:47




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 12:39:55  
Ar eyour large rounds string wrap. If they are go to net wrap and you will not need either of the other items. The net wrapping makes a tremendous difference period. Large rounds on pallets really does nota make muuch diifference because of settling. been there done that.



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old

05-07-2007 15:19:29




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to RickL, 05-07-2007 15:12:47  
Net wraps not an option. I use an old NH 850 so I can't use the net wrap stuff with it.



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RickL

05-08-2007 04:31:59




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 15:19:29  
yea thats what I had at one time also.(850) since all my hay sells to consumer market if its not net wrap nowdays you won't sell it. Nowdays if I do have some rolled it has to be net wrapped,NO COMPARISON,how they keep. But I still hate the large rounds anyway. I f at all possible all my stuff is small squared. If you are just feeding it for yourself I wouldn't worry about it regardless then. I have done the tire thing also and pallets,plastic etc. I found out all of those did was attract more varmits and snakes and really did not make that much difference on the hay on the bottom. Big crushed rock is still the best in my eyes and simplest. My last experiment was laying used roofing tin down over the rock thta was the best so far and is simpler because you caN RUN OVER IT WITH TRACTOR AND SKIDSTEER,pallets and tire yiou cannot. they are a pain to deal with ,you will learn that. Good luck. Ps I don't own any large round baler nowdays because of costs,and not liking them anyway. If I have to have some rolled it is with brand new unit every year for $9.50 bale. that his fuel,tractor,baler and operator. I stay in shop where it pays more. plan on start cutting next week . Large rounds are only if first cutting in some cases or if it gets rained on alot after cutting otherwise samll squares is way to sell hay here.

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old

05-08-2007 08:13:50




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to RickL, 05-08-2007 04:31:59  
Ya I like to do a few squares also but with my bad back I can't/shouldn't lift them. Plus right now all the square balers I have are broke down for one reason or the other. Another thing I need to see if I can fix, but when you pick up one of those old square balers that isn't in working shape it can be hard to figure out what is wrong with it and what some one else has tried to do to it

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RickL

05-08-2007 10:13:39




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-08-2007 08:13:50  
I second that. All my small square operation is done with accumulator and 2 grapples setup. If
i physically handle 25 bales a year something is wrong. another callto day need to dseliver another load to grocery store. I have even made a self unload delivery trailer drops them off on pallets or no pallets



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woodbutcher

05-07-2007 14:35:55




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 12:39:55  
I've always stored my round bales on pallets outside with no cover. I figure I've probably lost ten percent to the weather. I recently built a barn with a dirt floor to store the round bales in. I think that if I stack them on pallets in the barn I could keep them completely dry. I thought about putting a layer of gravel or rock base on the floor, but decided against it because of the cost.
Butch

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toolman

05-07-2007 13:02:04




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 12:39:55  
The plastic down first would be better ,but money spending is always a factor,the pallets are a good way to go, but just aren,t deep enough to stop the moisture from getting to your bales, another way is to take some old hay and build MAT them set the pallets down,but i still think plastic down first is best.



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cb in wisc

05-07-2007 12:53:05




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 Re: Hay barn question in reply to old, 05-07-2007 12:39:55  
My neighbor and I just the big square bales on pallets.



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